Doug Dotson wrote:

Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

--
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next
week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to
explain why it didn't happen.
-- Winston Churchill

I know, I read it too.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cardinal Bill" wrote in
message ...
Doug Dotson wrote:

Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

--
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next
week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to
explain why it didn't happen.
-- Winston Churchill

So, I think that I would love to sail to Cuba. What can those in power do
about confiscating my boat?

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I know, I read it too.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cardinal Bill" wrote in
message ...
Doug Dotson wrote:

Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

--
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,
next
week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to
explain why it didn't happen.
-- Winston Churchill

OOOO! Now you did it!

"FMc" wrote in message
...
So, I think that I would love to sail to Cuba. What can those in power do
about confiscating my boat?

"Doug Dotson" wrote in message
...
I know, I read it too.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Cardinal Bill" wrote in
message ...
Doug Dotson wrote:

Doug, I scanned the article. Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America
(meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might"
be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have
to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

--
Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow,
next
week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to
explain why it didn't happen.
-- Winston Churchill

"Cardinal Bill" wrote.....
Basically the proclamation by Bush says
that Homeland Security can sieze your boat and toss you and all the
people off of it (and maybe into the clink) ANYWHERE in America (meaning
if you're setting in Seattle or Chicago) if they "think" you "might" be
going to Cuba or "might have been" to Cuba. You don't actually have to
travel there. Oh yeah...this goes for ANY boat. Meaning if you're
from, say Mexico or any other nation in the world, and you're in an
American port Homeland Security can seize your boat.

Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that
your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across
Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? I am
a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. My government has
no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Were does it say this? Show me the law
that states this, please! This past February was my seventh trip to cruise
Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are
wonderful.

James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC
"The Boat"
Bayfield
Canada

"Jim Carter" wrote in message news:cWTnc.24135 Whoa!
Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying that
your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to go across
Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled to Cuba? I
am
a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered vessel. My government has
no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Were does it say this? Show me the
law
that states this, please! This past February was my seventh trip to
cruise
Cuba and it's waters. It is a great place to visit and the people are
wonderful.

James D. Carter, Port Captain, GLCC
"The Boat"
Bayfield
Canada

Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from
the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led around
on a dog leash.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from
the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led
around
on a dog leash.


Now, that's funny! I damn near fell off my chair laughing, just thinking
about it.

Jim

On Tue, 11 May 2004 01:16:28 GMT, "Jim Carter"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from
the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led
around
on a dog leash.


Now, that's funny! I damn near fell off my chair laughing, just thinking
about it.

Well, I was watching theTravel Show on BBC last night. Some people
were quite serious about avoiding the US as holiday destination, as
there is a remote possibility of being treated real bad by the INS.
Overstayed your visa many years back, airline did not inform the INS
about your departure, maybe mistake you for someone else etc. Even
well-behaving WASP businessmen end up in jail and deported.

Been to the US many times, but now it is off my list, especially as
we have small children I want to keep away from problems. There are
plenty of other destinations, were even aliens have legal rights.



Mike









Jim

I can't say that I blame you. I love my country, but for the last dozen
years, I have been disgusted and ashamed of it's leadership. I wonder
how much worse it's going to have to get before people wake up and vote
some people into the congress and white house who actually believe in
the constitution.

Mika wrote:
On Tue, 11 May 2004 01:16:28 GMT, "Jim Carter"
wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
...

Oh oh! Now that the 'cat is out of the bag' you'd better stay away from
the US. Next thing we'll be reading about you stripped naked and led

around

on a dog leash.


Now, that's funny! I damn near fell off my chair laughing, just thinking
about it.


Well, I was watching theTravel Show on BBC last night. Some people
were quite serious about avoiding the US as holiday destination, as
there is a remote possibility of being treated real bad by the INS.
Overstayed your visa many years back, airline did not inform the INS
about your departure, maybe mistake you for someone else etc. Even
well-behaving WASP businessmen end up in jail and deported.

Been to the US many times, but now it is off my list, especially as
we have small children I want to keep away from problems. There are
plenty of other destinations, were even aliens have legal rights.



Mike










Jim





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"Jim Carter" wrote:

Whoa! Just a damn minute here! What's that!!! Are you saying
that your US Homeland Security Force can seize my boat if I happen to
go across Lake Huron to an American Port, just because I have traveled
to Cuba?

'Fraid so. That's what the Bush Cabal - I mean, Administration, claims.

I am a Canadian who travels on a Canadian registered
vessel.

Don't make no diff to them that rules here now.

My government has no restrictions on travel to Cuba. Where
does it say this? Show me the law that states this, please!

Law? HAHA They don' need no steenking "Law". They IS the Law.
Remember "9/11 changed everything!" They do whatever they want,
and any reasons can be made up at any time.


This
past February was my seventh trip to cruise Cuba and it's waters. It
is a great place to visit and the people are wonderful.

Obviously a commie-pink-limpwrist-nonFundamentalistGawdfearin'-furriner!
(After Iraq we'll take care o' Canada...) :P

{Reality: Every week that goes by I feel like I am sinking ever deeper
into a bad dream. I hope everyone wakes up in time to VOTE in November
and restore the chance for freedom here in the US}