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Winterizing Questions
I've completed my Down East Circle route cruise and for the first time
since I've owned BlueJacket, I need to really winterize her. I'm quite good at preparing her for summering over in tropical climates, but this cold stuff...Burrr! For all intents and purposes, I've completed the winterization, but I have a couple of lingering questions: 1) According to the boat yard, they disconnect the cold/in and hot/out lines to the hot water heater and hook them together. Then they simply drain the hot water tank. I did this, but I can never get all of the water out. That makes me concerned, so I fed some anti-freeze into the tank which will get diluted with the remaining water. Is this OK and/or how do others winterize their hot water heater? 2) The life raft has water in it. Is there any reason to be concerned over this? I could just bring it home and store it in the basement. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org |
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:39:48 GMT, Geoff Schultz
wrote: I've completed my Down East Circle route cruise and for the first time since I've owned BlueJacket, I need to really winterize her. I'm quite good at preparing her for summering over in tropical climates, but this cold stuff...Burrr! For all intents and purposes, I've completed the winterization, but I have a couple of lingering questions: 1) According to the boat yard, they disconnect the cold/in and hot/out lines to the hot water heater and hook them together. Then they simply drain the hot water tank. I did this, but I can never get all of the water out. That makes me concerned, so I fed some anti-freeze into the tank which will get diluted with the remaining water. Is this OK and/or how do others winterize their hot water heater? 2) The life raft has water in it. Is there any reason to be concerned over this? I could just bring it home and store it in the basement. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org How did you like the "down east circle"? We've been thinking about doing that loop some day. Regarding winterization, the boat yard winterized the water heater in the standard way. As long as there is only a small amount of water left it really can't hurt the tank. You will need to do a great deal of flushing in the spring to get the anti-freeze out, and it is important to do that before heating the water heater. I'd definitely take the life raft home. |
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Geoff Schultz wrote:
1) According to the boat yard, they disconnect the cold/in and hot/out lines to the hot water heater and hook them together. Then they simply drain the hot water tank. I did this, but I can never get all of the water out. That makes me concerned, so I fed some anti-freeze into the tank which will get diluted with the remaining water. Is this OK and/or how do others winterize their hot water heater? I avoid the "pink stuff" in the drinking water system. Do you really want to be drinking antifreeze in the spring? I have a small air compressor (40-50 PSI max) that I use to blow out the lines. I start by draining the tanks as much as I can. Then I clear the lines by opening one faucet at a time and blowing air from the just downstream of the pump. Then I break the system at a low point in the middle and blow from there. I can blow some extra water out of the hot water tank, bu a small amount of water left in the main tank or hot water heater will not be a issue. No problems in 18 Boston winters. |
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"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message ... I've completed my Down East Circle route cruise and for the first time since I've owned BlueJacket, I need to really winterize her. I'm quite good at preparing her for summering over in tropical climates, but this cold stuff...Burrr! For all intents and purposes, I've completed the winterization, but I have a couple of lingering questions: 1) According to the boat yard, they disconnect the cold/in and hot/out lines to the hot water heater and hook them together. Then they simply drain the hot water tank. I did this, but I can never get all of the water out. That makes me concerned, so I fed some anti-freeze into the tank which will get diluted with the remaining water. Is this OK and/or how do others winterize their hot water heater? 2) The life raft has water in it. Is there any reason to be concerned over this? I could just bring it home and store it in the basement. -- Geoff www.GeoffSchultz.org I drain all the fresh water from the tank until the pressure pump sucks air. There is also a foot operated galley pump which extracts a little more. Any residue in the plastic pipes will perhaps freeze but will not hurt the pipes. When water freezes it expands a bit so any water that is free to expand can lie where it is without problems especially in plastic pipes. My water heater has a small drain plug which ensures it is empty-I leave it open all winter, just in case an airlock clears and lets a bit more water in. I do not suppose your anti freeze will cause any problems in the heater but be sure to flush it all out before you start using water next year! My engine has a closed circuit fresh water cooling system which has anti-freeze in it good to -30 degrees celsius so I leave that as it is.. Although salt water freezes to mush at first winter temperatures here can get very low and even the sea can freeze hard enough to walk across the harbour. So when I reach the haulout quay and am otherwise finished with the engine I turn off the sea water thru-hull and disconnect the hose from the thru-hull and insert into a can with about a gallon of antifreeze solution. Then I run the engine until it has all gone through. Now the salt water side of my heat exchanger is fully protected, as is the mixing chamber in the exhaust system and apart from the freezing aspect the solution protects from corrosion. Been as low as -20 degrees celsius one winter but have had no problem with all this. The cooling system on my heat pump that handles the air conditioning/heating is supposed to drain itself when the boat is hauled with the thru-hull open but I like to be sure, so when she is out I insert a tight fitting hose into the outlet on the side of the boat and blow through it until I am sure that nothing but air is coming out of the thru-hull. Can't get a good enough seal trying mouth-to mouth with the outlet hole unless I use the bit of hose! |
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"Geoff Schultz" wrote:
For all intents and purposes, I've completed the winterization, but I have a couple of lingering questions: SFWIW: Gave up on potable water anti-freeze after first year and did the following: 1) Disconnect hose from potable water tank supply at pressure pump inlet and allow tank to drain into bilge. 2) Disconnect hose from discharge side of presure pump as well as opening all potable water faucets allowing distribution hoses to drain into bilge. 3) Disconnect hoses from inlet and outlet of hot water tank and allow to drain into bilge. 4) Pump bilge. 5) Using a 5 gallon bucket and a 3 ft length of radiator hose, mix a 50-50 anti-freeze water solution in bucket. 6) Attach one end of 3 ft hose to engine cooling water inlet and the opposite end in bucket of anti-freeze solution. 7) Start engine, run until anti-freeze runs out of exhaust discharge thru hull, then stop engine. 8) Remove batteries and take home. That's it. Worked well in Northern Ohio winters for over 10 years. BTW, engine was raw water cooled. YMMV Lew |
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On Oct 14, 5:39 am, Geoff Schultz wrote:
I've completed my Down East Circle route cruise and for the first time since I've owned BlueJacket, I need to really winterize her. I'm quite good at preparing her for summering over in tropical climates, but this cold stuff...Burrr! For all intents and purposes, I've completed the winterization, but I have a couple of lingering questions: 1) According to the boat yard, they disconnect the cold/in and hot/out lines to the hot water heater and hook them together. Then they simply drain the hot water tank. I did this, but I can never get all of the water out. That makes me concerned, so I fed some anti-freeze into the tank which will get diluted with the remaining water. Is this OK and/or how do others winterize their hot water heater? 2) The life raft has water in it. Is there any reason to be concerned over this? I could just bring it home and store it in the basement. -- Geoffwww.GeoffSchultz.org easy i just drain the sweet water out and open the pressure relief valves. for the rest of it i close the boat up and hang a 100 watt light bulb. i check the boat once a week anyways so that keeps just enough heat to keep any thing inside the hull from freezing. Prolly helps that my boat is very well insulated. |
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