Dave wrote:
On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:25:00 -0400, Marty said:

Well Dave, since you are our resident expert, could you be so kind as to
precis this bill for us?

In the US, we call something that hasn't yet been passed by Congress and
"bill" and something that has been passed and signed into law a "law."

Much too long and complicated for an even half complete summary. GLB, which
was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress and signed by Clinton in
1999,


Hmmm, that would be the 106th Congress, Republican Majority, Newt
Gingrich the speaker, Thurmond President pro tempore of the Senate,
(same Congress that impeached Clinton, I thought you'd remember that!).
So having got that basic fact wrong, why should I trust the rest of
your summary?

Cheers
Martin

Marty wrote:
Dave wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:25:00 -0400, Marty said:

Well Dave, since you are our resident expert, could you be so kind as
to precis this bill for us?


In the US, we call something that hasn't yet been passed by Congress and
"bill" and something that has been passed and signed into law a "law."

Much too long and complicated for an even half complete summary. GLB,
which
was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress and signed by Clinton in
1999,



Hmmm, that would be the 106th Congress, Republican Majority, Newt
Gingrich the speaker, Thurmond President pro tempore of the Senate,
(same Congress that impeached Clinton, I thought you'd remember that!).
So having got that basic fact wrong, why should I trust the rest of
your summary?

Cheers
Martin


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...

He was TRIED.

And aquitted.


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Marty wrote:
Dave wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:25:00 -0400, Marty said:

Well Dave, since you are our resident expert, could you be so kind as
to precis this bill for us?


In the US, we call something that hasn't yet been passed by Congress and
"bill" and something that has been passed and signed into law a "law."

Much too long and complicated for an even half complete summary. GLB,
which
was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress and signed by Clinton in
1999,



Hmmm, that would be the 106th Congress, Republican Majority, Newt
Gingrich the speaker, Thurmond President pro tempore of the Senate, (same
Congress that impeached Clinton, I thought you'd remember that!). So
having got that basic fact wrong, why should I trust the rest of your
summary?

Cheers
Martin


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...

He was TRIED.

And aquitted.


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Richard

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He was impeached by the House and acquited by the Senate.

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Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...


WRONG. Clinton was impeached. You're letting your ignorance show, I'm
afraid.

im.peach \im-"pÈch\ vb [ME empechen to accuse, fr. MF empeechier to hinder,
fr. LL impedicare to fetter, fr. L pedica fetter, fr. ped-, pes foot] 1 : to
charge (a public official) before an authorized tribunal with misconduct in
office 2 : to challenge the credibility or validity of 3 : to remove from
public office for misconduct - im.peach.ment n

As you can see, you have an incomplete understanding of the word, 'impeach'.
You think it only means defintion 3. Stupid little man!

Wilbur Hubbard

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Marty wrote:
Dave wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:25:00 -0400, Marty said:

Well Dave, since you are our resident expert, could you be so kind as
to precis this bill for us?


In the US, we call something that hasn't yet been passed by Congress
and
"bill" and something that has been passed and signed into law a "law."

Much too long and complicated for an even half complete summary. GLB,
which
was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress and signed by Clinton in
1999,



Hmmm, that would be the 106th Congress, Republican Majority, Newt
Gingrich the speaker, Thurmond President pro tempore of the Senate,
(same Congress that impeached Clinton, I thought you'd remember that!).
So having got that basic fact wrong, why should I trust the rest of your
summary?

Cheers
Martin


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...

He was TRIED.

And aquitted.


--

Richard

(remove the X to email)


He was impeached by the House and acquited by the Senate.


Wrong! Clinton was impeached by the House and Senate.

im.peach \im-"pÈch\ vb [ME empechen to accuse, fr. MF empeechier to hinder,
fr. LL impedicare to fetter, fr. L pedica fetter, fr. ped-, pes foot] 1 : to
charge (a public official) before an authorized tribunal with misconduct in
office 2 : to challenge the credibility or validity of 3 : to remove from
public office for misconduct - im.peach.ment n


Acquitted has nothing to do with anything but the third definition of
impeach. You Clintonites need to learn the language.

--
Gregory Hall

Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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snip


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...



WRONG. Clinton was impeached. You're letting your ignorance show, I'm
afraid.

im.peach \im-"pÈch\ vb [ME empechen to accuse, fr. MF empeechier to
hinder, fr. LL impedicare to fetter, fr. L pedica fetter, fr. ped-, pes
foot] 1 : to charge (a public official) before an authorized tribunal
with misconduct in office 2 : to challenge the credibility or validity
of 3 : to remove from public office for misconduct - im.peach.ment n

As you can see, you have an incomplete understanding of the word,
'impeach'. You think it only means defintion 3. Stupid little man!

Wilbur Hubbard


Maybe so.

But at least I'm not like you...

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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
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snip


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...




troll sh*t removed


Maybe so.

But at least I'm not like you...

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Richard

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Definitely not!

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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
m...
Wilbur Hubbard wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...
snip


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...



WRONG. Clinton was impeached. You're letting your ignorance show, I'm
afraid.

im.peach \im-"pÈch\ vb [ME empechen to accuse, fr. MF empeechier to
hinder, fr. LL impedicare to fetter, fr. L pedica fetter, fr. ped-, pes
foot] 1 : to charge (a public official) before an authorized tribunal
with misconduct in office 2 : to challenge the credibility or validity of
3 : to remove from public office for misconduct - im.peach.ment n

As you can see, you have an incomplete understanding of the word,
'impeach'. You think it only means defintion 3. Stupid little man!

Wilbur Hubbard


Maybe so.

But at least I'm not like you...

--

Richard

(remove the X to email)


And, he's completely wrong:
At the federal level, Article Two of the United States Constitution (Section
4) states that "The President, Vice President, and all other civil Officers
of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and
Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The
House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United
States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of
impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate.


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www.sailnow.com

Dave wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:02:03 -0400, Marty said:

So having got that basic fact wrong, why should I trust the rest of
your summary?

And why should I care whether you do or not? You can certainly Google up
your own info if you wish. That law just happens to be one I work with.


'cause we own the same boat ;-o I'm playing a bit of devils advocate
here, I'll do the same to Dems too. Sometimes it looks like you let your
prejudice against anybody not Republican (or is it adulation of all
things GOP?) cloud your reasoning.

Personally, I think that great misquote "First we kill all the lawyers"
should have "Politicians" substituted for "Lawyers".

Cheers
Marty

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:04:25 -0500, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Marty wrote:
Dave wrote:

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:25:00 -0400, Marty said:

Well Dave, since you are our resident expert, could you be so kind as
to precis this bill for us?


In the US, we call something that hasn't yet been passed by Congress and
"bill" and something that has been passed and signed into law a "law."

Much too long and complicated for an even half complete summary. GLB,
which
was passed by the Democrat-controlled Congress and signed by Clinton in
1999,



Hmmm, that would be the 106th Congress, Republican Majority, Newt
Gingrich the speaker, Thurmond President pro tempore of the Senate,
(same Congress that impeached Clinton, I thought you'd remember that!).
So having got that basic fact wrong, why should I trust the rest of
your summary?

Cheers
Martin


Except that Clinton wasn't impeached...

He was TRIED.

And aquitted.

The trial is impeachment. He was impeached and aquitted.