On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:40:17 -0700, BCC wrote:

Looking for good method to pack long term spare parts on long term
cruise - like a spare alternator, starter, diesel injector pump,
expensive things.

What I'm thinking is a very heavy gauge individual bags - something
like almost 1/8" thick. Taped up with the clear packing tape that's
about 2" wide. You need to be able to see what's inside.

The Seal-a-Meal and other vaccum pack stuff is way too thin to last on
a cruising boat for 6+ years.

I've found very heavy bags on the net - but you need to buy 100 or a
1000 at a time.

Also - looking for something to put in the bag as an anti-rust,
corrosion, etc inhibitor.

Any suggestions?


You might want to look into vapor (or volatile) corrosion inhibitors.
The substance slowly evaporates and deposits itself on the surface of
whatever it's protecting, making a moisture barrier. No muss, no fuss,
no mess. It's commonly used by gun enthusiasts, because some of the
most common and beautiful gun finishes don't resist corrosion worth
beans.

It comes in a variety of forms. I 've seen heavy guage bags (always
blue for some reason) that are impregnated with the stuff. Just drop
whatever you want to protect into the bag and seal it. More commonly,
I've seen it as little yellow tabs you can drop into tool kits, boxes,
etc. Effectiveness goes up radically when the package is tightly
sealed, as you'd expect.

Not all plastic bags seal out moisture well. See this site
http://www.protectivepackaging.net/corrosion.cfm
for a short discussion of what to look for.

Another option is the metal dessicant cans. I use these for my camera
gear. They're reusable, a few minutes in a hot oven bakes all the
moisture out of them. For cameras, corrosion is not the prime
problem. There are funguses that like to eat the coatings on lenses
and keeping the humidity down eliminates the problem. Coin shops
often stock dessicants.


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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:29:30 -0700, "Steve" wrote:


I then wrap them in industrial towels prior to putting them in ziplock bags.
I usually double bag, just in case..

What's an industrial towel. Something for drying off factories after
it rains? :-)

It can't be anything like a regular towel, because I can't think of a
better way to trap moisture in a package than to put a regular towel
in there.

Besides moisture resistance, a big concern with any plastic bag would
be abrasion resistance. The plastic used for oil "cans" will
eventually rub right through from the rocking in a seaway, unless
stored very carefully. Don't ask me how I know this...

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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:29:30 -0700, "Steve" wrote:


I then wrap them in industrial towels prior to putting them in ziplock bags.
I usually double bag, just in case..

What's an industrial towel. Something for drying off factories after
it rains? :-)

It can't be anything like a regular towel, because I can't think of a
better way to trap moisture in a package than to put a regular towel
in there.

Besides moisture resistance, a big concern with any plastic bag would
be abrasion resistance. The plastic used for oil "cans" will
eventually rub right through from the rocking in a seaway, unless
stored very carefully. Don't ask me how I know this...

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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:29:30 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Spare belts should be tried out first and I usually leave the new belt on
and save the slightly used ones for the spares. Since you change belt every
other season or so, these can be stored without any special packaging.

I saw a neat trick on a trawler I delivered once. The owner actually
stored a spare belt on the engine. It was already routed properly,
then secured behind the pulleys. The idea was that if that one broke,
you didn't have to remove the other belt to replace it. The owner said
you could just get the belt started, then turn over the engine.
Instant no tools replacement for the back belt.

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On Wed, 7 Apr 2004 12:29:30 -0700, "Steve" wrote:

Spare belts should be tried out first and I usually leave the new belt on
and save the slightly used ones for the spares. Since you change belt every
other season or so, these can be stored without any special packaging.

I saw a neat trick on a trawler I delivered once. The owner actually
stored a spare belt on the engine. It was already routed properly,
then secured behind the pulleys. The idea was that if that one broke,
you didn't have to remove the other belt to replace it. The owner said
you could just get the belt started, then turn over the engine.
Instant no tools replacement for the back belt.

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I have both shop wiping rags that you get at Harbor Frieght or I also have a
paper towel that is made out of shreded cloth. They come sheets about 20
inch square and are very absorbant.

I keep them dry and stick the wiping rags in the dryer before I use them to
wrap parts..

I also have about 50 lb of desicant but haven't dried it out yet, so
sometime in the future I will make up decicant packs for each spare parts
package.

Most of my parts already have a film of diesel or lub oil on them and the
wrapping is to keep the sharp edges from punching a hole in the bag.

Steve

I have both shop wiping rags that you get at Harbor Frieght or I also have a
paper towel that is made out of shreded cloth. They come sheets about 20
inch square and are very absorbant.

I keep them dry and stick the wiping rags in the dryer before I use them to
wrap parts..

I also have about 50 lb of desicant but haven't dried it out yet, so
sometime in the future I will make up decicant packs for each spare parts
package.

Most of my parts already have a film of diesel or lub oil on them and the
wrapping is to keep the sharp edges from punching a hole in the bag.

Steve

Sorry - guess I wasn't clear enuff - home Seal-a-meal, Tilia, etc are
worthless for long cruising - been there / done that - that's why I
specifically (and apparently not clearly enuff) stated - something
like 1/8" thick - anybody know where you get super heavy duty bags -
forget the vacuum ****. we cruised for 6 years before and had one -
works great for a few things - isn't worth a **** for 95% of the
things on a boat - the plastic's too thin and wears/scratches/pokes
thru. Freezer ziplok bags are a little better but go to crap (dry out
and crack) in the tropics in a few years.



On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:40:17 -0700, BCC wrote:

Looking for good method to pack long term spare parts on long term
cruise - like a spare alternator, starter, diesel injector pump,
expensive things.

What I'm thinking is a very heavy gauge individual bags - something
like almost 1/8" thick. Taped up with the clear packing tape that's
about 2" wide. You need to be able to see what's inside.

The Seal-a-Meal and other vaccum pack stuff is way too thin to last on
a cruising boat for 6+ years.

I've found very heavy bags on the net - but you need to buy 100 or a
1000 at a time.

Also - looking for something to put in the bag as an anti-rust,
corrosion, etc inhibitor.

Any suggestions?

Sorry - guess I wasn't clear enuff - home Seal-a-meal, Tilia, etc are
worthless for long cruising - been there / done that - that's why I
specifically (and apparently not clearly enuff) stated - something
like 1/8" thick - anybody know where you get super heavy duty bags -
forget the vacuum ****. we cruised for 6 years before and had one -
works great for a few things - isn't worth a **** for 95% of the
things on a boat - the plastic's too thin and wears/scratches/pokes
thru. Freezer ziplok bags are a little better but go to crap (dry out
and crack) in the tropics in a few years.



On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:40:17 -0700, BCC wrote:

Looking for good method to pack long term spare parts on long term
cruise - like a spare alternator, starter, diesel injector pump,
expensive things.

What I'm thinking is a very heavy gauge individual bags - something
like almost 1/8" thick. Taped up with the clear packing tape that's
about 2" wide. You need to be able to see what's inside.

The Seal-a-Meal and other vaccum pack stuff is way too thin to last on
a cruising boat for 6+ years.

I've found very heavy bags on the net - but you need to buy 100 or a
1000 at a time.

Also - looking for something to put in the bag as an anti-rust,
corrosion, etc inhibitor.

Any suggestions?

BCC wrote in message
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Looking for good method to pack long term spare parts on long
term
cruise - like a spare alternator, starter, diesel injector
pump,
expensive things.

What I'm thinking is a very heavy gauge individual bags -
something
like almost 1/8" thick. Taped up with the clear packing tape
that's
about 2" wide. You need to be able to see what's inside.

My stuff's all stored in plastic boxes, wrapped in oiled paper
first, with bubble wrap to stop pieces rattling around inside the
box and a bag of desiccant. The box lids are a good but not
perfect seal - bit like big Tupperware - so I've greased them
with lanolin. Gaskets are stored under a sheet of ply in a
locker - sort of false floor - in plastic sheet.

System has lasted 8 years. I do an annual clean out, re-drying
the desiccant in a fry pan. Each box's contents are marked on the
lid with a a w'proof marking pen.

I've used one alternator, one fuel lift pump, one salt water
pump, two shafts and four seals for the salt pump, one exhaust
water injection elbow, all 4 injecters and lots of their washers
(bad fuel, not caught in time - I had to wait for the injector
pump to be shipped!). I used to carry three years worth of
filters and impellers, but now I'm in civilised waters so that
matters less.

JimB