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Larry wrote:

Herodotus wrote in
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/7492678.stm

Scary, isn't it, especially the part about Kennedy and Kruschev not
being in control of the war mongers playing soldiers.

The nuclear time clock still sits locked just before midnight, but a few
seconds back from where it used to sit in those days.

What concerns me is the weapons are becoming less and less dependent on
the senior enlisted men who've always been in control of them. The
master sergeants I've always thought would keep the various secret cults
from killing us all have become redundant and, mostly, unnecessary to
implement our own destruction.

Many think that about 80% of humanity MUST be
eliminated for the upper 20% to survive on what the planet has left.
Human life cannot sustain its current level of unrestricted consumption.
Millions will have to die and the constant wars these men create are not
doing a very good job at reducing the numbers, as envisioned. There's
got to be a more efficient way for genocide of the masses.

There will be some kind of genetic genocide created by these people, a
new, artificial black plague to blame the genocide upon. Just watch it.

Ermm.. I've never bothered with GlobalWarming theory.. and, like you
Larry, I'm too old to worry anyway... but this:

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/44810,...imate-change-m
eltdown

is a voice from the cutting-edge of the phenomenon.

Particularly chilling: ŒThe earth is still going to be here. The
question is how much life do we take with us when we go¹

--
Molesworth

Molesworth wrote in news:ukmole-
:

Ermm.. I've never bothered with GlobalWarming theory.. and, like you
Larry, I'm too old to worry anyway... but this:

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/44810,...rs-to-climate-
change-m
eltdown

is a voice from the cutting-edge of the phenomenon.

Particularly chilling: OThe earth is still going to be here. The
question is how much life do we take with us when we goû

--
Molesworth


The climate is a diversion from the REALITY problem......The end of oil
and the coming global depression it is causing, now.

Everyone says we have an unlimited supply of oil and can continue to
burn it at ever increasing rates forever.....or that's what they hope.

This may be partly true, but not infinate.....

Question - Let's say the supply of energy...food...water...the basics of
our economy and way of life now show signs of depletion. What will the
elite controlling the governments and money do to preserve themselves
and their way of life?

I think the answer includes the word GENOCIDE, and is already under
implementation, starting in the third world where incessant breeding has
always been a problem.

At some point, we're either going to have to create some new religious
wonder like the movie "Logan's Run" to smooth talk the world population
into slowing the breeding of new humans and submitting to mass genocide
by the wonder machines....or....we're all going to be walking zombies
living on "Soylent Green"...except, of course, for the moneyed elite and
their slavers....

This little pimple in space has about found its limit of human
inhabitants and plans must already have been, at least, drawn up to
reduce the numbers by about 80%. Constant wars with ever-increasing
automated mortality has been a failure at lowering the numbers, and more
drastic measure MUST be taken to accomplish the goal....the survival of
the human elite and the slaves to support them.

Every time I see someone's new baby, this terrible reality crosses my
mind. At the rate of consumption increases of the last century, your
kids may see their kids put in the euthanizers, being blessed by the
religious zealots on their way to "paradise", with all the believers
smiling away knowing it's "right" and singing to them, swaying back and
forth in ignorant bliss.

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I'd like to drag it out a couple of more generations before it happens
to see if humans can come up with less drastic solutions to placate the
elite.

Fuel is painful, but quite easy. Fuel rationing. Ground all the
airplanes, private, commercial and military, immediately. Forbid anyone
from fueling airplanes, BOATS, CRUISE LINERS and all unnecessary
shipping devices. This will, of course, create a global depression
which is going to happen, anyways, so let's get it over with so a new
economy of LOCAL manufacturing and food production can emerge. During
the transition, because we're not out of fuel yet, we'll have fuel
available to power the transition....instead of watching "1984" come
true with the government lie machines telling us everything is wonderful
when it's not.

That alone can, properly implemented, clean the air, clean the water and
give us another couple of hundred years to come to our senses. Delta
Airlines, ALONE, burns nearly 10,000,000 gallons of fuel per year that
can be diverted to the production of food to feed us before we starve.
Business can stay home and use the internet for sales meetings.

You'll be able to save ration coupons or barter for more if you want to
drive up to grandma's house for Christmas in your 2 cylinder new car.
Abandoned SUVs, alone, will provide the steel for local production of
new products by local workers who will have JOBS, once again.....

Wasting fuel so Walmart can get goods from Chinese slavers will, of
course, be forbidden.

This way, a few more generations will be able to live before the mass
genocide machines have to kill most of us.

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 09:34:21 -0500, Molesworth
wrote:

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/44810,...imate-change-m
eltdown

Very chilling. The inaction of the G8 leaders is so very frustrating.
It was only last year that the then Australian Prime Minister- Howard
- denied that there was such a thing as global warming.

The term Ecology was just coming into its own in 1967 in my first year
at university as a Zoology student. Rachel Carson's book "Silent
Spring' made a huge impact on people's concepts of pollution and the
interdependence of biosystems and living things. The sad thing is that
until very recently anyone espousing the science on global warming,
depleting resources, the environment and pollution was held in
ridicule by most people. They are not laughing now. I am not normally
Malthusian but I do worry for my children and my children's children.

Peter