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Texan wrote:
Considering that the poster said he was out of Corpus Christi and
most of the bays and anything out of the channel in that area is ultra
shallow, having a centerboard boat is an excellent idea.


True also for most of the southern East Coast.

My opinion is that shoal draft can be an excellent safety feature,
because of the wider area available for anchoring. You can get clear of
other vessels and choose your holding ground. Also, if you're not
squeamish, you can wade around the anchor and dig it in by hand (or foot).

However most people have picked up the curious idea that any boat with a
centerboard cannot possibly be "seaworthy." It doesn't fit in with the
fantasy image of sailing around Cape Horn. And so if any voyaging, such
as to the Bahamas where shoal draft is again a blessing, they choose a
deep draft vessel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Fresh Breezes
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dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?

True also for most of the southern East Coast.

My opinion is that shoal draft can be an excellent safety feature,
because of the wider area available for anchoring. You can get clear of
other vessels and choose your holding ground. Also, if you're not
squeamish, you can wade around the anchor and dig it in by hand (or foot).

However most people have picked up the curious idea that any boat with a
centerboard cannot possibly be "seaworthy." It doesn't fit in with the
fantasy image of sailing around Cape Horn. And so if any voyaging, such
as to the Bahamas where shoal draft is again a blessing, they choose a
deep draft vessel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Fresh Breezes
Doug King










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dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you
pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?


Sorry to interrupt the insult-slinging fest with a boat question.

How does the Nimrod differ from other small sailing vessels, such as a Sunfish?
May seem like a simple question, and it probably is, but as a dyed-in-the-wool
stinkpotter I can always learn something about the wind-driven school of
boating.



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gould, "Nimrod" was a "hunter" mentioned in the bible. "Nimrod" is also the
term used to describe Elmer Fudd(?) the cartoon hunter who hit a barn from the
side.

dougies, used to trailer his 19 foot Hunter down the Interstate and claim to
one and all that he was actually "cruising" and thus his "experience" was more
valuable as an "expert" than those who sailed merely dozens of miles every
weekend.

"Sunfish, classic model without the sissy footwell" is a metaphor for a
sailboat that is sailed often.

dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you
pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?


Sorry to interrupt the insult-slinging fest with a boat question.

How does the Nimrod differ from other small sailing vessels, such as a
Sunfish?
May seem like a simple question, and it probably is, but as a
dyed-in-the-wool
stinkpotter I can always learn something about the wind-driven school of
boating.











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It is not at all
uncommon for someone who buys one of these non-sailor sailboats to
eventually buy a diesel trawler with a fake smoke stack.

BB


Like mine?

By the way, that's not a "fake smokestack", it's a functioning propane locker.
:-)

The smokestack motif looks a little better on the cabin top than a big FRP box
might, expecially with "PROPANE" emblazoned on the side.


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Gould 0738 wrote:

The smokestack motif looks a little better on the cabin top than a big FRP box
might, expecially with "PROPANE" emblazoned on the side.


What I really like about the smokestack is the way it attracts the attention of
all the envious cretins who will never be able to afford a boat with one.

Fair Skies
Doug King

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It's a fake smoke stack and it's decidedly tacky. Thousand of boats
have propane without needing a fake smoke stack.

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Propane, being heavier than air, must be allowed to find an unobstructed path
down and overboard if there should be any leakage. On a boat with high gunwales
and deck drains rather than conventional scuppers (I would have been happier
with conventional scuppers, btw,) that about eliminates almost any location
except a cabin top. Nothing below the top of the gunwale will do.

Under ABYC regs, a propane locker must have a top that can be "blown off" in
the unlikely event of an explosion.

The fake smokestack/propane locker, with a vent at the base, meets all the
essential standards.

Is there anything on your sailboat that is modified to look a little better
than the plain, functional, minimalist appliance might? Any portion of a system
that is cosmetically concealed? My best guess would be, "of course."

You are entitled to your opinion about "tacky" by the way. People disagree on
what's good looking, vs. not. Ever have a buddy who raved on, non-stop, about
the gorgeous new gal he was dating......
and then when you finally got to meet this
purported "10" you personally figured her for about a 5 1/2? Seems like it's
always that way with boats. You don't have to like mine. It merely shows our
tastes are different, rather than objectively defining those tastes as superior
or inferior.

(Human nature, of course, will dictate that we each consider our own taste
superior).


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On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:44:54 -0500, DSK wrote:

What I really like about the smokestack is the way it attracts the attention of
all the envious cretins who will never be able to afford a boat with one.


My $.02, I like the fake smoke stack. Great storage area, and it
makes the boat look salty to boot. It's sorta like the utility shed
out back that looks like a horse barn. Sure, you coulda just put up a
shed with four walls, a roof and a door, and it would have done the
same thing, but a shed with some character, imo, is a little better.
Do I have horses in my back yard? No. Do I prefer a utility shed
that looks like a barn rather than a utility shed? Yes.

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I tried to install a fake smokestack on my sailboat but the fibreglass
melted from the welding.

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DSK wrote in message ...
Gould 0738 wrote:

The smokestack motif looks a little better on the cabin top than a big FRP box
might, expecially with "PROPANE" emblazoned on the side.


What I really like about the smokestack is the way it attracts the attention of
all the envious cretins who will never be able to afford a boat with one.

Fair Skies
Doug King

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