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Old March 15th 04, 03:37 PM
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I took exception to
pompous pope DSK, who likes to pontificate and spew absolutes for all
occasions based on his extensive reading of old magazines.

BB


JAXAshby wrote:
hey, bill. dougies also trailered his boat down 275 miles of Interstate 95 and
staunchly referred to it as "cruising", an experience he insisted set him apart
from those people who merely sail a few dozen miles every weekend.


Or those "people" (using the term loosely) such as yourself and
BittyBill, who hate & belittle everyone who has actually accomplished
anything in real life.

DSK


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Old March 15th 04, 03:43 PM
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Texan wrote:
Considering that the poster said he was out of Corpus Christi and
most of the bays and anything out of the channel in that area is ultra
shallow, having a centerboard boat is an excellent idea.


True also for most of the southern East Coast.

My opinion is that shoal draft can be an excellent safety feature,
because of the wider area available for anchoring. You can get clear of
other vessels and choose your holding ground. Also, if you're not
squeamish, you can wade around the anchor and dig it in by hand (or foot).

However most people have picked up the curious idea that any boat with a
centerboard cannot possibly be "seaworthy." It doesn't fit in with the
fantasy image of sailing around Cape Horn. And so if any voyaging, such
as to the Bahamas where shoal draft is again a blessing, they choose a
deep draft vessel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Fresh Breezes
Doug King


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Old March 15th 04, 04:10 PM
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Or those "people" (using the term loosely) such as yourself and
BittyBill, who hate & belittle everyone who has actually accomplished
anything in real life.


such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen miles
every weekend?

DSK



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Old March 15th 04, 04:11 PM
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dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?

True also for most of the southern East Coast.

My opinion is that shoal draft can be an excellent safety feature,
because of the wider area available for anchoring. You can get clear of
other vessels and choose your holding ground. Also, if you're not
squeamish, you can wade around the anchor and dig it in by hand (or foot).

However most people have picked up the curious idea that any boat with a
centerboard cannot possibly be "seaworthy." It doesn't fit in with the
fantasy image of sailing around Cape Horn. And so if any voyaging, such
as to the Bahamas where shoal draft is again a blessing, they choose a
deep draft vessel. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Fresh Breezes
Doug King










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Old March 15th 04, 04:25 PM
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Brian Whatcott wrote:

I find the tone of the following post, offensive. Why is it
always the pseudonymous posters who want to let rip in this way?

Brian Whatcott


It isn't _always_ the anonymous posters who let fly. I myself do so from
time to time, as do many others who publish under their own name. Usually
it takes persistence and effort to draw these responses out of me, but
sometimes it doesn't. There doesn't seem to be any discernable pattern.

Also, what one individual finds "offensive" is just that: one person's view.
I cannot understand what else one might expect on Usenet.

I hope I haven't offended you, Brian.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.home.comcast.net/








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Old March 15th 04, 05:35 PM
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dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you
pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?


Sorry to interrupt the insult-slinging fest with a boat question.

How does the Nimrod differ from other small sailing vessels, such as a Sunfish?
May seem like a simple question, and it probably is, but as a dyed-in-the-wool
stinkpotter I can always learn something about the wind-driven school of
boating.



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Old March 15th 04, 05:42 PM
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gould, "Nimrod" was a "hunter" mentioned in the bible. "Nimrod" is also the
term used to describe Elmer Fudd(?) the cartoon hunter who hit a barn from the
side.

dougies, used to trailer his 19 foot Hunter down the Interstate and claim to
one and all that he was actually "cruising" and thus his "experience" was more
valuable as an "expert" than those who sailed merely dozens of miles every
weekend.

"Sunfish, classic model without the sissy footwell" is a metaphor for a
sailboat that is sailed often.

dougeis, your sailboat was a 19 foot Nimrod. How the hell can you
pontificate
so and not feel ashamed of yourself?


Sorry to interrupt the insult-slinging fest with a boat question.

How does the Nimrod differ from other small sailing vessels, such as a
Sunfish?
May seem like a simple question, and it probably is, but as a
dyed-in-the-wool
stinkpotter I can always learn something about the wind-driven school of
boating.











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Old March 15th 04, 06:32 PM
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It is not at all
uncommon for someone who buys one of these non-sailor sailboats to
eventually buy a diesel trawler with a fake smoke stack.

BB


Like mine?

By the way, that's not a "fake smokestack", it's a functioning propane locker.
:-)

The smokestack motif looks a little better on the cabin top than a big FRP box
might, expecially with "PROPANE" emblazoned on the side.
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Old March 15th 04, 06:39 PM
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JAXAshby wrote:

such as "cruising" a sailboat down Interstate 95 and claiming it to be a more
accomplished sailing experience compared to those who sail a few dozen miles
every weekend?


No, obviously it would be better to hunch in front of a keyboard for years,
building a reputation as the world's most obnoxious and yet at the same time,
most ignorant, usenet denizen.

But hey, at least you're famous.

DSK

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Old March 15th 04, 06:44 PM
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Gould 0738 wrote:

The smokestack motif looks a little better on the cabin top than a big FRP box
might, expecially with "PROPANE" emblazoned on the side.


What I really like about the smokestack is the way it attracts the attention of
all the envious cretins who will never be able to afford a boat with one.

Fair Skies
Doug King



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