On May 8, 2:41*am, wrote:

Yes, most sailors want to be as far away and removed from the water as possible.
Twenty miles inland is their favorite place of all.

You see we do share common gound. I agree completly!

I am amazed at how many (I wont use the wrord "sailor") people on
boats could care less about the water. In fact as the OP here
describes the advantages of insulating the operator from the sea... to
seperate from the sea..

Even the guy on the Red Clown was described in the media as
"...terrified of getting in the water..." It gets better. When I
attended DIvers Institute of Technology (a 6 month comercial diver
school in Seattle) two coonasses from LA couldnt even swim! Now why
are you going to commercial dive school if you CANT SWIM?!?!

So people here fill their boats with electronics and gadgets to
protect themselvs from the sea and shelter them slvs in pilot houses
and build fat bathtub boats for intertaining without regard to
seakeeping ability. Its all about selling/marketing/profit to get
people who dont like the ocean but want to llve the life of the rich
an famos with the MOST important critera for boat selectoin is........
will I look cool drinking and eating. The problme is sometime they go
to sea and get into small craft warnings and:
Blame NOAA weather
Killer storms and howling winds (really 8-12' seas 20-30K wind gusting
to 38K)
Curse e

Do we still agree?
Bob

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On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On May 8, 2:41 am, wrote:

Yes, most sailors want to be as far away and removed from the water as
possible.
Twenty miles inland is their favorite place of all.

You see we do share common gound. I agree completly!

I am amazed at how many (I wont use the wrord "sailor") people on
boats could care less about the water. In fact as the OP here
describes the advantages of insulating the operator from the sea... to
seperate from the sea..

Even the guy on the Red Clown was described in the media as
"...terrified of getting in the water..." It gets better. When I
attended DIvers Institute of Technology (a 6 month comercial diver
school in Seattle) two coonasses from LA couldnt even swim! Now why
are you going to commercial dive school if you CANT SWIM?!?!

So people here fill their boats with electronics and gadgets to
protect themselvs from the sea and shelter them slvs in pilot houses
and build fat bathtub boats for intertaining without regard to
seakeeping ability. Its all about selling/marketing/profit to get
people who dont like the ocean but want to llve the life of the rich
an famos with the MOST important critera for boat selectoin is........
will I look cool drinking and eating. The problme is sometime they go
to sea and get into small craft warnings and:
Blame NOAA weather
Killer storms and howling winds (really 8-12' seas 20-30K wind gusting
to 38K)
Curse e

Do we still agree?
Bob

NOAA weather predictions in my home waters are worse than useless.

Threshold criteria for Small Craft Warnings (at least around here) are
usually based on 5 foot or greater seas OR steady 25mph wind.


Out here they're great... Small Craft Advisories almost every Summer day!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On May 8, 10:49*am, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Bob said:

Yes, well I was trained as a diver too. But I try not to brag about it where
it's not relevant to the discussion.

I guess Ive been reading too many of Roger's posts and his constant
self promotion and attempts at building credibility. Still that is no
excuse. I appologize deeply for the reference to DIT.

You are correct any true diver would not have mentioned it. I stand
corrected and ashamed that I stooped so low.
bob

On May 8, 3:02*pm, Bob wrote:
On May 8, 10:49*am, Dave wrote:

On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Bob said:
Yes, well I was trained as a diver too. But I try not to brag about it where
it's not relevant to the discussion.

I guess Ive been reading too many of Roger's posts and his constant
self promotion and attempts at building credibility. Still that is no
excuse. I appologize deeply for the reference to DIT.

You are correct any true diver would not have mentioned it. I stand
corrected and ashamed that I stooped so low.
bob

Next you will be claiming you were a SEAL. Keep it up Bob and maybe
in 20-30 years you might get that credibility you are so desperately
seeking.

Way back when Bob dived he had his diving buddy's back covered.
http://home.att.net/~crinaustin/Croc_files/image003.jpg

Fred

On Thu, 8 May 2008 13:02:27 -0700 (PDT), Bob
wrote:

On May 8, 10:49*am, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2008 09:52:14 -0700 (PDT), Bob said:

Yes, well I was trained as a diver too. But I try not to brag about it where
it's not relevant to the discussion.

I guess Ive been reading too many of Roger's posts and his constant
self promotion and attempts at building credibility. Still that is no
excuse. I appologize deeply for the reference to DIT.

You are correct any true diver would not have mentioned it. I stand
corrected and ashamed that I stooped so low.

I read that more people have died diving the wreck of the Andrea Doria
than died when she sank. One guy takes an expedition to dive it once a
year. He said 3% get killed. I gather it is pretty deep, for breathing
air. I an not a diver, and don't know what the make of that. If you
take those kinds of risks, you have about a fifty/fifty chance of
getting away with it twenty times, if I pushed the right keys on the
'calculator that takes no prisoners', the HP 48. Are those guys danger
junkies or what?

Casady

On May 8, 2:13*pm, (Richard Casady) wrote:
Are those guys danger
junkies or what?

Casady

Just SPORTS scuba enthusiasts.
A real dive wouldnt go unless there was profit to gain. Then it would
be oxyarc, C4, jet hose, and chain.