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"Ron Heron" wrote in message ... After several years of cruising with pilothouse and without I've concluded that pilothouse sailing offers tremendous advantages over sailing in the raw. Here is what I have found: 1. Much less cockpit glare in a pilothouse - less fatigue, less sunburn, better visibility. 2. Better environment temperature and sun wise. Can sail for much longer periods comfortably. 3. Higher position allows for much better visibility. 4. Higher position allows for much greater "feel" of the boat. I can sail much better from a pilothouse. The sailtrim is easier to get right and its easier to detect wind and current changes. 5. Access to instrumentation is far superior, no clouded plexiglass covers. 6. Better airflow through the cockpit of a pilothouse. 7. No wacky tiller to deal with. The wife can't handle a tiller but is a champ on the wheel. 8. Great view of things going on up on the foredeck. You can see everything, rather than being down in a "hole". 9. Stuff can be stored out of the weather in the pilothouse. 10. Pets less likely to be washed overboard. 11. Greater protection in strong seas. 12. Excellent for entertaining and getting out of the bugs. I find a pilothouse sailboat just can't be beat for cruising and would encourage any serious cruiser to look at them before commiting to a cockpit boat. Ron Heron S/V Seven C's Biloxi, MS Must agree with most of that but I am not sure why you claim the airflow can be better in a pilothouse than in an open cockpit. Also, some pilot houses obstruct the view of the mainsail so not all will allow you to sail better, although you can certainly see how the foresail is doing. I have no doubt that Wilbur will shortly come back at you about your no. 11 and tell you what he thinks about pilot houses with their large windows. |
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"Edgar" wrote in message
... "Ron Heron" wrote in message ... After several years of cruising with pilothouse and without I've concluded that pilothouse sailing offers tremendous advantages over sailing in the raw. Here is what I have found: 1. Much less cockpit glare in a pilothouse - less fatigue, less sunburn, better visibility. 2. Better environment temperature and sun wise. Can sail for much longer periods comfortably. 3. Higher position allows for much better visibility. 4. Higher position allows for much greater "feel" of the boat. I can sail much better from a pilothouse. The sailtrim is easier to get right and its easier to detect wind and current changes. 5. Access to instrumentation is far superior, no clouded plexiglass covers. 6. Better airflow through the cockpit of a pilothouse. 7. No wacky tiller to deal with. The wife can't handle a tiller but is a champ on the wheel. 8. Great view of things going on up on the foredeck. You can see everything, rather than being down in a "hole". 9. Stuff can be stored out of the weather in the pilothouse. 10. Pets less likely to be washed overboard. 11. Greater protection in strong seas. 12. Excellent for entertaining and getting out of the bugs. I find a pilothouse sailboat just can't be beat for cruising and would encourage any serious cruiser to look at them before commiting to a cockpit boat. Ron Heron S/V Seven C's Biloxi, MS Must agree with most of that but I am not sure why you claim the airflow can be better in a pilothouse than in an open cockpit. Also, some pilot houses obstruct the view of the mainsail so not all will allow you to sail better, although you can certainly see how the foresail is doing. I have no doubt that Wilbur will shortly come back at you about your no. 11 and tell you what he thinks about pilot houses with their large windows. What about the issue of big windows with big waves? Seems like they would blow out; whereas, small portlights wouldn't. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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news ![]() On Wed, 7 May 2008 10:12:26 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Ron Heron" wrote in message ... After several years of cruising with pilothouse and without I've concluded that pilothouse sailing offers tremendous advantages over sailing in the raw. Here is what I have found: 1. Much less cockpit glare in a pilothouse - less fatigue, less sunburn, better visibility. 2. Better environment temperature and sun wise. Can sail for much longer periods comfortably. 3. Higher position allows for much better visibility. 4. Higher position allows for much greater "feel" of the boat. I can sail much better from a pilothouse. The sailtrim is easier to get right and its easier to detect wind and current changes. 5. Access to instrumentation is far superior, no clouded plexiglass covers. 6. Better airflow through the cockpit of a pilothouse. 7. No wacky tiller to deal with. The wife can't handle a tiller but is a champ on the wheel. 8. Great view of things going on up on the foredeck. You can see everything, rather than being down in a "hole". 9. Stuff can be stored out of the weather in the pilothouse. 10. Pets less likely to be washed overboard. 11. Greater protection in strong seas. 12. Excellent for entertaining and getting out of the bugs. I find a pilothouse sailboat just can't be beat for cruising and would encourage any serious cruiser to look at them before commiting to a cockpit boat. Ron Heron S/V Seven C's Biloxi, MS Must agree with most of that but I am not sure why you claim the airflow can be better in a pilothouse than in an open cockpit. Also, some pilot houses obstruct the view of the mainsail so not all will allow you to sail better, although you can certainly see how the foresail is doing. I have no doubt that Wilbur will shortly come back at you about your no. 11 and tell you what he thinks about pilot houses with their large windows. What about the issue of big windows with big waves? Seems like they would blow out; whereas, small portlights wouldn't. Then again, an open cockpit starts out with even less protection from the elements. True, but that's not why I mentioned it. An open cockpit will not stop a wave, but if a portlight is destroyed, it might be a bigger problem. I'm not that familiar with pilothouse boats, but I would think that if the pilothouse section is compromised, there's not much that can be done. If a cockpit is awash, it'll drain (perhaps minus crew, but that's another issue). -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Wed, 7 May 2008 11:13:42 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: What about the issue of big windows with big waves? Seems like they would blow out; whereas, small portlights wouldn't. Then again, an open cockpit starts out with even less protection from the elements. True, but that's not why I mentioned it. An open cockpit will not stop a wave, but if a portlight is destroyed, it might be a bigger problem. I'm not that familiar with pilothouse boats, but I would think that if the pilothouse section is compromised, there's not much that can be done. If a cockpit is awash, it'll drain (perhaps minus crew, but that's another issue). During WWII the Queen Mary was in a North Atlantic gale with no big deal 30 to 40 foot waves. A freak wave broke the pilothouse windows 93 feet above sea level, and rolled her almost to the point of no return. Weak windows should not go far offshore. Casady |
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On Wed, 07 May 2008 20:16:23 +0000, Richard Casady wrote:
During WWII the Queen Mary was in a North Atlantic gale with no big deal 30 to 40 foot waves. A freak wave broke the pilothouse windows 93 feet above sea level, and rolled her almost to the point of no return. Weak windows should not go far offshore. Casady A broken porthole was also what sunk the Ocean Ranger. All hands lost. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_Ranger |
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