BeeRich wrote in news:602a69dc-7306-4afd-b4ec-
:

Hiya folks.

Anybody done this trip? Any recommendations, cautions, stories? I'm
wanting to take a sailboat with a crewmate from Florida to BVI via
Abacos, along the islands.

Any input appreciated.

Cheers

After I responsed, I realized that I should have asked an obvious (at least
to me) question. Are you planning on doing this soon? Most people are
thinking about getting their boats out of the hurricane box by this time of
the season. You're talking about heading into it. Where are you going to
leave it for hurricane season?

-- Geoff
www.GeoffSchultz.org

On May 5, 12:39*pm, Geoff Schultz wrote:

After I responsed, I realized that I should have asked an obvious (at least
to me) question. *Are you planning on doing this soon? *Most people are
thinking about getting their boats out of the hurricane box by this time of
the season. *You're talking about heading into it. *Where are you going to
leave it for hurricane season?

Hi there. We are thinking of going down sometime between August and
October.

"BeeRich" wrote in message
...

Hi there. We are thinking of going down sometime between August and
October.

What? Are you daft? That's a stupid thing to do. You're talking about the
busiest part of the Atlantic hurricane season. You obviously haven't a
clue. Stay home or take a cruise ship. You obviously aren't qualified to be
out there sailing a small boat.

--
Gregory Hall

On May 5, 2:18*pm, "Gregory Hall" wrote:
"BeeRich" wrote in message

...

Hi there. *We are thinking of going down sometime between August and
October.

What? Are you daft? That's a stupid thing to do. You're talking about the
busiest part of the Atlantic hurricane season. *You obviously haven't a
clue. Stay home or take a cruise ship. You obviously aren't qualified to be
out there sailing a small boat.

--
Gregory Hall

For your reasons, there would be no sailboats in the Caribbean at any
time, as they would be wiped out. Not every day is a hurricane, but
perhaps you haven't noticed that.

"BeeRich" wrote in message
...
On May 5, 2:18 pm, "Gregory Hall" wrote:
"For your reasons, there would be no sailboats in the Caribbean at any
time, as they would be wiped out. Not every day is a hurricane, but
perhaps you haven't noticed that.


But, YOU will certainly notice the day a hurricane approaches and strikes
you someplace where there is little warning and even less shelter. But,
please go ahead with your stupid plans. I, for one, will welcome your
demise. There are way too many stupid people in the world as it is . . . It
is my hope that you will not live to pass on your defective genes.

--
Gregory Hall

On 2008-05-05 14:18:12 -0400, "Gregory Hall" said:

What? Are you daft? That's a stupid thing to do. You're talking about the
busiest part of the Atlantic hurricane season. You obviously haven't a
clue. Stay home or take a cruise ship. You obviously aren't qualified to be
out there sailing a small boat.

I find this to be over the top.

The BVI experience fewer storms than Long Island, yet few will warn
against sailing in LIS in season.

As long as the OP pays attention to local weather, they'll be just fine.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Tue, 06 May 2008 11:31:50 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

As long as the OP pays attention to local weather, they'll be just fine.

Bad advice Jere. LIS experiences very few hurricanes, about the same
frequency as the Chesapeake. The area in question by our intrepid
cruise planner experiences multiple hurricanes every season. He is
talking about sailing hundreds of miles off shore in a sailboat with
no time or opportunity to seek shelter.

On 2008-05-06 07:44:47 -0400, Wayne.B said:

On Tue, 06 May 2008 11:31:50 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

As long as the OP pays attention to local weather, they'll be just fine.

Bad advice Jere. LIS experiences very few hurricanes, about the same
frequency as the Chesapeake. The area in question by our intrepid
cruise planner experiences multiple hurricanes every season. He is
talking about sailing hundreds of miles off shore in a sailboat with no
time or opportunity to seek shelter.

Sorry to directly disagree, but I been there, done that, and know both
areas intimately.

LI gets more storms and hurricanes than the BVI or any other single
"Caribbean" island group ("quotes" allow for including the Bahamas and
Bermuda, which aren't in the Caribbean.)

As a BVI "expert" for more than a decade, I get many reports. To date,
I have fielded exactly one 'cane experience in the BVI, and their
experience was that they were "forced" into a hurricane hole for one
day. They listened to the local forecasts, chose that day to shop
onshore, and were paid to enjoy the experience. They cared not that
they had to wear their foulies as they walked around.

A typical Chesapeake squall line is more "interesting" than their
experience. Chesapeake squall lines are a wake-up call for world
cruisers who have been through 'canes or brushed by them. We often
experience 110+ knot winds for an hour or more. A fairly recent one put
28 boats on a local anchorage's beaches.

--
Jere Lull
Xan-à-Deux -- Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI trips & tips: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

On Thu, 08 May 2008 02:21:52 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

LI gets more storms and hurricanes than the BVI

Maybe so but he's got to get to the BVI first after about 1200
nautical miles underway in prime hurricane season. I wouldn't do it,
and I don't know anyone else with experience who would either.

Jere Lull wrote:
....
Sorry to directly disagree, but I been there, done that, and know both
areas intimately.

LI gets more storms and hurricanes than the BVI or any other single
"Caribbean" island group ("quotes" allow for including the Bahamas and
Bermuda, which aren't in the Caribbean.)

This seems very doubtful indeed if you're just counting hurricanes and
tropical storms. Lets look at the data:

Since 1851, New York has had 12 strikes from hurricanes, 6 cat 1, 1 cat
2, 5 cat 3, and nothing stronger.

http://www.stormfax.com/hurstate.htm

How about the Carribean:
For the same period, Virgin Gorda had 28 hurricanes, of which 4 of the
were cat 4, stronger than any that hit NY. The Bahamas faired worse,
with 40 hurricanes. In fact, most of the Carribean/Bahamas (and even
Bermuda) has more hurricanes than any place in the US Northeast.

(It is true that the Carribean strikes are measured a bit different, but
since the NY coast is about 120 miles this seems like a fair comparison.)

http://www.stormcarib.com/climatology/freq.htm
which is extracted from:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pdf/NWS-TPC-5.pdf

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/Landsea/deadly/index.html

As a BVI "expert" for more than a decade, I get many reports. To date, I
have fielded exactly one 'cane experience in the BVI, and their
experience was that they were "forced" into a hurricane hole for one
day. They listened to the local forecasts, chose that day to shop
onshore, and were paid to enjoy the experience. They cared not that they
had to wear their foulies as they walked around.

Their memory is rather short, since the BVI had a number of serious hits
in the late '80s and '90s. Of course, that's the problem with being an
"expert" for the last ten years; the major storms average every 15 years
or so.


A typical Chesapeake squall line is more "interesting" than their
experience. Chesapeake squall lines are a wake-up call for world
cruisers who have been through 'canes or brushed by them. We often
experience 110+ knot winds for an hour or more. A fairly recent one put
28 boats on a local anchorage's beaches.

I certainly wouldn't deny that thunderstorm squalls can be very intense,
but I seriously doubt they sustain 110+ knots for over an hour, and that
this happens "often." I've tried to find any record of extreme squalls
and in fact only one reporting station on the Chesapeake reported record
gusts of over 100 mph.

I have no doubt that "hurricane force gusts" occur somewhere in the Bay
several times a year, but that's not the same 110+ knots sustained for
over an hour.