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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:01:40 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:29:25 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
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Try 200 ft. of chain.......


With a 120 lb anchor and a 100 lb mud ball. Even the windlass grunts.


On my next boat I'm going to about 50 - 100 ft. of chain and a nylon
rode. Actually the rope is stronger then the chain and you don't have
to rig a snubber every night.

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On my next boat I'm going to about 50 - 100 ft. of chain and a nylon
rode. Actually the rope is stronger then the chain and you don't have
to rig a snubber every night.


That will certainly work but all chain has its advantages also:

- less scope required for average conditions

- resulting smaller swing radius

- almost no chance of being cut by an errant prop on an other boat

Nylon also loses a great deal of its original strength when it is wet,
abraded, or as it ages. I regard rigging a snubber as an advantage
because it off-loads the bow pulpit and lowers the effective freeboard
height.

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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:08:51 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:

On my next boat I'm going to about 50 - 100 ft. of chain and a nylon
rode. Actually the rope is stronger then the chain and you don't have
to rig a snubber every night.


That will certainly work but all chain has its advantages also:

- less scope required for average conditions

- resulting smaller swing radius

- almost no chance of being cut by an errant prop on an other boat

Nylon also loses a great deal of its original strength when it is wet,
abraded, or as it ages. I regard rigging a snubber as an advantage
because it off-loads the bow pulpit and lowers the effective freeboard
height.



Certainly true... both of course have advantages/disadvantages. If you're
conscientious about checking your ground tackle (as with other vital pieces
of equipment), you're going to have more of the advantages and fewer of the
disadvantages.

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On Apr 15, 4:08 am, Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On my next boat I'm going to about 50 - 100 ft. of chain and a nylon
rode. Actually the rope is stronger then the chain and you don't have
to rig a snubber every night.


You're in coral country aren't you? Coral sand erodes nylon and coral
cuts it. My take on this is that in light winds when the chain is
lying on the bottom you want the nylon well above the level of any
bommies that might be around and still want enough scope out to be
safe. I've been using 35m (~114') of 10mm (~3/8) chain and wouldn't
go with much less. Indeed, I just replaced that with 150' of
nominally 5/16 (actually 9mm) G43. Rigging a snubber is pretty easy
work.

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On Apr 15, 4:08 am, Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On my next boat I'm going to about 50 - 100 ft. of chain and a nylon
rode. Actually the rope is stronger then the chain and you don't have
to rig a snubber every night.


You're in coral country aren't you? Coral sand erodes nylon and coral
cuts it. My take on this is that in light winds when the chain is
lying on the bottom you want the nylon well above the level of any
bommies that might be around and still want enough scope out to be
safe. I've been using 35m (~114') of 10mm (~3/8) chain and wouldn't
go with much less. Indeed, I just replaced that with 150' of
nominally 5/16 (actually 9mm) G43. Rigging a snubber is pretty easy
work.

-- Tom.



Most places I anchor will be about 30 ft. (not taking the tide into
consideration) with chain I normally use a scope of three. With nylon
I'll probably start with five and see how that works. The first 50 -
100 ft will be chain which is laying on the bottom.

Surprising I seldom find an anchorage with coral, usually it is clay
mud with perhaps some shells.

I think that the chain/rope rode will handle things but if not I still
have the 200 ft. of chain in storage :-).


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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My dock will be under about 10 ft. (not taking the tide into
consideration) with dock lines I normally use a scope of three. With nylon
I'll probably start with five and see how that works. The first 50 -
used rolls of t.p. and beer cans will be laying on the bottom.

Surprising I seldom find an anchorage with coral, usually it has
some sort of pier with piles to tie to. I no longer do any serious
cruising. I just got too old for it and my boat is to large and
difficult to handle. I use it just as a floating home these days.

I think that 3/8 rope dock line will handle things but if not I still
have the 200 ft. of chain in storage. It's new since I haven't
left this dock in about three or four years.


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Uh huh! Thought so. Thanks for the confirmation.

Wilbur Hubbard


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