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I've got water in my engine oil....
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"Steve" wrote: Shouldn't have happened on this engine since the OP states that he just rebuilt the engine, which would mean new cylinders (most likely). The only other possibility would be a defect in the gasket or gasket surface of the heads. There's just no other way for water to get into the oil. In my 15 years experience with Volvo MD series engines, the most likely culprit will be the water pump seal. Steve s/v Good Intentions If it was just rebuilt and new liners were installed, without a pressure test being done on the cooling system, then I would seriously look at a bad Liner Seal. I don't know this engine, but a bunch of small diesels that use replaceable liners have O-Rings, that seal the bottom of the liners, and they can be bad, out of the box, or get pinched wrong upon assembly. Most good rebuilders will pressure test the cooling system for leaks before first fire, just to avoid this problem. Also may be a warped head and a head gasket that didn't seal correctly. Pressure test the cooling system, but putting a plate across the input and output cooling ports and then run the the pressure up to 20 PSI and then valve it off and watch a pressure guage installed on one of the plates. It you got a cooling system leak, it will be obvious in 10 minutes. Bruce in alaska -- add a 2 before @ |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
These engines don't use liners. Each cylinder sits on top of the crankcase
opening with a shims between the cylinder base. There is a machine cylinder skirt that fits into the machined opening in the crankcase for a registered fit. The shims are inserted or removed to adjust piston top clearance/compression ratio. Other wise this is a metal to metal fit up. The water jacket in only in the cylinder casting and there is at least a half inch of metal in the bottom of this water jacket. The cylinder are held in place by the four long head studs that thread into the crankcase. The passage for these four bolt does not pass through the water jacket. The oil passage from the crankcase gallery goes up to the head/rockers via an independant passage in the cylinder casting. Oil runs back via the push rod opening in the head and cylinder casting. So there is only one mechanical joint in this whole assembly that could let cooling water get into the crankcase and that is the head gasket.. It's been 5 years since I had a Volvo MD cylinder head off and I'm not sure there is an O ring in this location.. However it this O ring were missing, IMHO there would be evidence of oil leaking from the head/cylinder joint. -- My opinion and experience. FWIW Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
These engines don't use liners. Each cylinder sits on top of the crankcase
opening with a shims between the cylinder base. There is a machine cylinder skirt that fits into the machined opening in the crankcase for a registered fit. The shims are inserted or removed to adjust piston top clearance/compression ratio. Other wise this is a metal to metal fit up. The water jacket in only in the cylinder casting and there is at least a half inch of metal in the bottom of this water jacket. The cylinder are held in place by the four long head studs that thread into the crankcase. The passage for these four bolt does not pass through the water jacket. The oil passage from the crankcase gallery goes up to the head/rockers via an independant passage in the cylinder casting. Oil runs back via the push rod opening in the head and cylinder casting. So there is only one mechanical joint in this whole assembly that could let cooling water get into the crankcase and that is the head gasket.. It's been 5 years since I had a Volvo MD cylinder head off and I'm not sure there is an O ring in this location.. However it this O ring were missing, IMHO there would be evidence of oil leaking from the head/cylinder joint. -- My opinion and experience. FWIW Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who has this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who has this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who has this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who has this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who has this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who has this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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I've got water in my engine oil....
I have a friend who had this problem, and it turns out it may not be all that
serious. He changed oil and ran it a bit, then changed oil again and ran it, and did that a couple of times. When he had finished, the mechanic told him that he had just steam cleaned his engine. It ran very well thereafter. But there may be more to it that I have forgotten. I am going to sent this to the guy and see if he won't tell any part of the story that I forgot. What I do know, however, is that with a little work he certainly didn't have to have the engine rebuilt. MLapla4120 wrote: Hey, Some seawater is in my newly re-built MDIIB diesel (volvo), what do I do? I changed the oil five times and the filter twice. Runs great otherwise. |
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