He does seem to complain quite a bit. Here he is complaining publicly:

http://www.sacbee.com/410/story/428427.html

The most humorous thing is that the flight path of those planes is about 3
miles east of the lake so how could they appear "low over the lake"?

Just more gross misrepresentations and whinging. Simply check the map in
the article. Could be a case of severely distorted perception:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40002206/

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:01:23 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

There's no difference between spending on war vs. spending on health? Ok.
I
guess I just repeated it again!

Remember those multiple choice tests you took in HS, Jon? There was often
a
choice labeled "none of the above."


I used that one a lot, but I still graduated anyway! LOL Question: How come
you never see "none of the below" on these kinds of tests?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gene Rayburn" wrote in message
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snip stalker crapola

Sigh... another sockpuppet stalker... easy to plonk...

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gene Rayburn" wrote in message
...
He does seem to complain quite a bit. Here he is complaining publicly:

http://www.sacbee.com/410/story/428427.html

The most humorous thing is that the flight path of those planes is about 3
miles east of the lake so how could they appear "low over the lake"?

Just more gross misrepresentations and whinging. Simply check the map in
the article. Could be a case of severely distorted perception:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40002206/




That's what large overdoses of LSD does to a person. It's a wonder he
doesn't see the aircraft morphing into reptiles and dragons. I guess the
following is what you're talking about?

"Orangevale resident Jonathan Ganz said the big cargo jets are especially
noticeable when they lumber in low and loud over Lake Natoma while he is
trying to teach a sailing class. "I have to stop talking. We all sit on the
dock and watch the plane, wondering if it is going to land in the lake,"
Ganz said.""

Ha ha ah! What a jerk! Teaches a sailing class on the dock? Wouldn't it be
better to teach sailing on a sailboat? A case of the blind leading the
blind, I'm afraid.

--
Gregory Hall

"Gene Rayburn" wrote in message
...
He does seem to complain quite a bit. Here he is complaining publicly:

http://www.sacbee.com/410/story/428427.html

The most humorous thing is that the flight path of those planes is about 3
miles east of the lake so how could they appear "low over the lake"?

Just more gross misrepresentations and whinging. Simply check the map in
the article. Could be a case of severely distorted perception:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40002206/




If the planes are such a nuisance, why in God's name did he chose to buy a
house right in the flight path? Seems really dumb to me. It's like buying a
boat, knowing it has a large hole in the bottom, and then complaining it
sinks every time you put it in the water. Talk about a perpetual victim of
his own doing!

Phil

"Phil Abuster" wrote in message
...

"Gene Rayburn" wrote in message
...
He does seem to complain quite a bit. Here he is complaining publicly:

http://www.sacbee.com/410/story/428427.html

The most humorous thing is that the flight path of those planes is about
3 miles east of the lake so how could they appear "low over the lake"?

Just more gross misrepresentations and whinging. Simply check the map in
the article. Could be a case of severely distorted perception:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40002206/




If the planes are such a nuisance, why in God's name did he chose to buy a
house right in the flight path? Seems really dumb to me. It's like buying
a boat, knowing it has a large hole in the bottom, and then complaining it
sinks every time you put it in the water. Talk about a perpetual victim of
his own doing!

Phil


Buy a home????? I always heard that Jon Boy still lives with his mother in
HER home!

--
Gregory Hall

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:55:45 +0000, Larry said:

So, Larry, you think that if the VAT rate is 20%, and I buy parts for
$.80 and resell the assembled product for $1.00, I'm going to have to
collect and pay over to the guvmint $.20 in VAT?

C'mon Dave.
You buy a product for $0.80 which includes VAT. so the product has actually
cost you $0.66 because you can reclaim the VAT,assuming you are registered
for VAT..
You then sell it for $1.00
You do not say whether this is ex or inclusive of VAT
If ex. you must charge $1.20 and pay the goverment $.20 like he said, so
your profit is $0.33
If inclusive of VAT you get $1 and must pay the government $0.13 so you are
left with $0.83 and your profit is just $017.

"Gene Rayburn" wrote in message
...
He does seem to complain quite a bit. Here he is complaining publicly:

http://www.sacbee.com/410/story/428427.html

The most humorous thing is that the flight path of those planes is about 3
miles east of the lake so how could they appear "low over the lake"?

Just more gross misrepresentations and whinging. Simply check the map in
the article. Could be a case of severely distorted perception:

http://www.patient.co.uk/showdoc/40002206/




Gene, thanks. That last link is very informative. I wonder if he sometimes
sees haloes around those low-flying aircraft?

Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder. Hmmm very interesting. I like
this part,

"HPPD, by contrast, is a persistent, pervasive, long-term, dysphoric and
distressing condition. It may be irreversible or persist for months or
years. Its effects are clearly non-benign and accompanied by a sense of
dysphoria.3 The symptoms must cause distress or social, occupational or
other impairment and not be due to an underlying medical condition. Equally,
the symptoms should not be due to another mental disorder such as dementia,
delirium or schizophrenia, and not be associated with waking or falling to
sleep when hypnopompic or hypnagogic hallucinations are a more likely
cause."

Could be. Just could be...

--
Gregory Hall

BrianH wrote in news:829ed$47db6af5$5449e348$1574
@news.hispeed.ch:

Each registered business does indeed pay VAT on its stage of
a product's path to final sale to the consumer but each
business is able to claim that payment back once it leaves
for the next stage, so in practice no payment is made.
Therefore, that payment is not reflected in the product's
cost of production, only the consumer pays the final VAT,
making it similar to a normal sales tax.


I learn something new every day. This is today's discovery. I didn't know
they get it back. I assumed, wrongly it seems, that it was accumulated.

It certainly wouldn't be given back in the United States of America. We'd
invent a new layer of local government bureaucrats who would live quite
well upon each layer of kept VAT, here.

Does VAT work that way in every European country, or just Switzerland?

On Mar 15, 9:10 am, Larry wrote:
BrianH wrote in news:829ed$47db6af5$5449e348$1574
@news.hispeed.ch:
....
Does VAT work that way in every European country, or just Switzerland?

We have a thing called a goods and services general excise tax (GST)
here in Hawaii that is VAT without the write-off so it pyramids. It
is very powerful, largely hidden and extraordinarily regressive.

-- Tom.