"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT), DoctorD
said:

When you go, your best choices:

Where did Estonia and Ireland place in your compilation?


If you're a published author, I believe there are no income taxes in
Ireland. Or, something like that...

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On 14 Mar., 14:34, DoctorD wrote:
Rich:

On www.worldwide-tax.com/ I found
that of 59 countries represented, 35 had income tax rates the same or
higher than in the US. Some were as high as 59% (Denmark).

Are you aware that the danes are also the most happy people in the
world ?

For "confirmation" check this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5224306.stm

This suggests the conclusion: The higher tax - the happier people.

Off course it is not as simple as that - and yes we all want more
money to ourselves - but allthough this might seem crazy to some, the
point is, that tax is not nesisarily wasted money, but it makes it
possible for the government (if it is not to corrupt) to create a
society worth living in.


george

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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:49:25 -0700, "Capt. JG"
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700 (PDT), DoctorD
said:

When you go, your best choices:

Where did Estonia and Ireland place in your compilation?


If you're a published author, I believe there are no income taxes in
Ireland. Or, something like that...

I thought it was "no income" in Ireland.


I believe the economy there is doing pretty well.. least it was recently. I
have a couple of friends there and they seem to be doing well.


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On 14 Mar., 14:34, DoctorD wrote:
Rich:

On www.worldwide-tax.com/ I found
that of 59 countries represented, 35 had income tax rates the same or
higher than in the US. Some were as high as 59% (Denmark).

Are you aware that the danes are also the most happy people in the
world ?

For "confirmation" check this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5224306.stm

This suggests the conclusion: The higher tax - the happier people.

Off course it is not as simple as that - and yes we all want more
money to ourselves - but allthough this might seem crazy to some, the
point is, that tax is not nesisarily wasted money, but it makes it
possible for the government (if it is not to corrupt) to create a
society worth living in.


george


From what I've read, it's more about low expectations rather than a
"society worth living in" in combination with a responsible society. Not to
discount the latter of course....


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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Way off topic, but I suppose you think that $3-6 trillion spent on a war
of choice is preferrable to health care for all Americans... I know where
I'd rather see my money going, and it isn't to Saudia Arabia.


Do not fret! It is going to cost trillions for the long term health care of
all the veterans! It's a win-win!

The only thing left is to draft all Americans - universal health care!

Bush and the associated Congress is one of the most reckless of all time.

It's time America started having national strikes, where everyone stops
working for a few days at a time in unison. Maybe then the ruling class will
start to get a hint.

Phil

"j" ganz wrote:

From what I've read, it's more about low expectations rather than a
"society worth living in" in combination with a responsible society. Not to
discount the latter of course....

I suppose that, the fact that people have realistic expectations, are
part of beeing a good society. Don't you ?

wrote:
On 14 Mar., 14:34, DoctorD wrote:
Rich:

On www.worldwide-tax.com/ I found
that of 59 countries represented, 35 had income tax rates the same or
higher than in the US. Some were as high as 59% (Denmark).

Are you aware that the danes are also the most happy people in the
world ?

For "confirmation" check this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5224306.stm

This suggests the conclusion: The higher tax - the happier people.

Off course it is not as simple as that - and yes we all want more
money to ourselves - but allthough this might seem crazy to some, the
point is, that tax is not nesisarily wasted money, but it makes it
possible for the government (if it is not to corrupt) to create a
society worth living in.

Great! I hereby propose to make your life happier! Starting today,
please send me 20% of your income (oh wait, do I have to take it by
force in order for it to make you happy?). Either way, I promise to
spend it on something very worthwhile and make our society better. Win/win!!

Stephen

Stephen Trapani wrote in news:ImxCj.11$_J2.2
@newsfe02.lga:

If you aimed
that same focus anywhere else you would see ten times the conspiracies
elsewhere and the US would look like a safe haven in comparison.


The "New World Order" is global in scope. Other nations are already in the
process of being assimilated, such as the EU. The NAU will assimilate us
into a 3-country conglomeration of mindless peoples. If you haven't been
to the USA in the last 3 years, you need to come see it! Charleston, SC,
hardly a border town along the Rio Grande is SIMPLY OVERRUN with Mexicans,
Mexican Indians, Central Americans who came in with the Mexicans across our
porous border to the South. Whole business that cater to the illegal
aliens have sprung up. Most places speak Spanish, now, just like Radio
Shacks. The country has been quite successfully invaded from the South and
the results are BREEDING LIKE FLIES ON A **** PILE! Every illegal Mexican
woman is following her Catholic instructions by staying pregnant
continuously! Some are pushing 4 babies around, simultaneously! These, of
course, are BORN IN THE USA, of illegal stock. I'm sure this breeding
program is supported by many politicians who hope to "cash in" at the polls
on election day as soon as the babies are 18, natural citizens of voting
age. The indoctrination of them has already begun!

The new, diluted population of the USA will do what it's told when the 3
countries are melded into the North American Union. South America, Africa
and Asia are next. Once the regional mixing is complete, a generation or
two away, they will be, again, melded into the World Government with the
NWO elites at the top of the pyramid and the all seeing eye will have
completed the world's transition to world control.

This is no fantasy. It's all around us!

Dave wrote in
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:30:53 +0000, Larry said:

VAT is piled
upon EVERY link in the money exchange chain from the mine to the
consumer, multiplying its real percentage into the price the consumer
pays many times over.

So, Larry, you think that if the VAT rate is 20%, and I buy parts for
$.80 and resell the assembled product for $1.00, I'm going to have to
collect and pay over to the guvmint $.20 in VAT?


Rolled into the price outside the USA. Every point on the chain from when
they dig it out of the ground where money changes hands, VAT is added and
rolled into the price when it goes up the chain.....

It's not just Sales Tax we pay here....

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:48:04 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

I suppose you think that $3-6 trillion spent on a war of
choice is preferrable to health care for all Americans... I know where I'd
rather see my money going, and it isn't to Saudia Arabia.

This is an argument we see over and over ad nauseam--the guvmint should
spend money on the program I want because that's better than spending it
on
X.

The technique relieves that proponent of having to justify on its own the
program he wants, or to consider the possibility that perhaps we'd be
happier if the guvmint didn't spend the money on either program, and
didn't
take the money out of our pockets in the first place.


I don't think there's much in the way of argument about which is better to
spend money doing. Unless of course you think war is preferrable to healthy
citizens.

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