On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700, DoctorD wrote:

tax-whining snipped

wonder why your roads are pot-holed, your buses/subways old and broken,
your hospitals un-maintained, your sewage treatment plants obsolete, your
children's schools a disgrace...

keep whining about the taxes bub...just so long as _you're_ alright eh
Jack?

mister b wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700, DoctorD wrote:

tax-whining snipped

wonder why your roads are pot-holed, your buses/subways old and broken,
your hospitals un-maintained, your sewage treatment plants obsolete, your
children's schools a disgrace...

keep whining about the taxes bub...just so long as _you're_ alright eh
Jack?

Yeah, no need to whine about taxes. See the democratic plan is to raise
*someone else's* taxes and have *someone else* pay to repair the roads,
buses, etc! All you have to do is become a democrat and you can claim
morally superior compassion for the poor, etc without contributing one
thin dime of your own money to the effort!

Stephen

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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mister b wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700, DoctorD wrote:

tax-whining snipped

wonder why your roads are pot-holed, your buses/subways old and broken,
your hospitals un-maintained, your sewage treatment plants obsolete, your
children's schools a disgrace...

keep whining about the taxes bub...just so long as _you're_ alright eh
Jack?

Yeah, no need to whine about taxes. See the democratic plan is to raise
*someone else's* taxes and have *someone else* pay to repair the roads,
buses, etc! All you have to do is become a democrat and you can claim
morally superior compassion for the poor, etc without contributing one
thin dime of your own money to the effort!

Stephen

Nonsense! Everybody knows any good Democrat is too busy using his money to
support poor, destitute, 5,000 dollar-an-hour call girls. Morals are for
everybody else. Democrats, by definition, have no moral compass thus they
cannot be criticized for immoral acts.

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Gregory Hall

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:06:59 -0400, Gregory Hall wrote:

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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mister b wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700, DoctorD wrote:

tax-whining snipped

wonder why your roads are pot-holed, your buses/subways old and
broken, your hospitals un-maintained, your sewage treatment plants
obsolete, your children's schools a disgrace...

keep whining about the taxes bub...just so long as _you're_ alright eh
Jack?

Yeah, no need to whine about taxes. See the democratic plan is to raise
*someone else's* taxes and have *someone else* pay to repair the roads,
buses, etc! All you have to do is become a democrat and you can claim
morally superior compassion for the poor, etc without contributing one
thin dime of your own money to the effort!

Stephen

Nonsense! Everybody knows any good Democrat is too busy using his money
to support poor, destitute, 5,000 dollar-an-hour call girls. Morals are
for everybody else. Democrats, by definition, have no moral compass thus
they cannot be criticized for immoral acts.

Of course it's all the Democrat's fault...for the last 7.5 years they
have nearly ruined the US with their tax and spend madness...My god this
government has been ****ing away a billion tax dollars a week trying to
bring democracy to Iraq...what? they haven't been in power? oh...well
apparently it's all their goddamn fault anyway..the *******s! all of
them..every last one of them has been out partying with $5000
hookers....even the children of democrats have been too! they're evil
from the moment they're conceived by their godless, anti-American,
taliban-loving Democrat ******* parents...

gentleman...while out on your boats, take some time to do a little
fishing...in fact a lot of fishing...start eating lots of fish...it's
supposed to be good for growing brain cells...because you two...damn

poke a stick into a dark place and look what pops out...a couple
of...what is the plural of dufus anyway?

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
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mister b wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 06:34:18 -0700, DoctorD wrote:

tax-whining snipped

wonder why your roads are pot-holed, your buses/subways old and broken,
your hospitals un-maintained, your sewage treatment plants obsolete, your
children's schools a disgrace...

keep whining about the taxes bub...just so long as _you're_ alright eh
Jack?

Yeah, no need to whine about taxes. See the democratic plan is to raise
*someone else's* taxes and have *someone else* pay to repair the roads,
buses, etc! All you have to do is become a democrat and you can claim
morally superior compassion for the poor, etc without contributing one
thin dime of your own money to the effort!

Stephen


Way off topic, but I suppose you think that $3-6 trillion spent on a war of
choice is preferrable to health care for all Americans... I know where I'd
rather see my money going, and it isn't to Saudia Arabia.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Way off topic, but I suppose you think that $3-6 trillion spent on a war
of choice is preferrable to health care for all Americans... I know where
I'd rather see my money going, and it isn't to Saudia Arabia.


Do not fret! It is going to cost trillions for the long term health care of
all the veterans! It's a win-win!

The only thing left is to draft all Americans - universal health care!

Bush and the associated Congress is one of the most reckless of all time.

It's time America started having national strikes, where everyone stops
working for a few days at a time in unison. Maybe then the ruling class will
start to get a hint.

Phil

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:48:04 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

I suppose you think that $3-6 trillion spent on a war of
choice is preferrable to health care for all Americans... I know where I'd
rather see my money going, and it isn't to Saudia Arabia.

This is an argument we see over and over ad nauseam--the guvmint should
spend money on the program I want because that's better than spending it
on
X.

The technique relieves that proponent of having to justify on its own the
program he wants, or to consider the possibility that perhaps we'd be
happier if the guvmint didn't spend the money on either program, and
didn't
take the money out of our pockets in the first place.


I don't think there's much in the way of argument about which is better to
spend money doing. Unless of course you think war is preferrable to healthy
citizens.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:48:04 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

I suppose you think that $3-6 trillion spent on a war of
choice is preferrable to health care for all Americans... I know where
I'd
rather see my money going, and it isn't to Saudia Arabia.

This is an argument we see over and over ad nauseam--the guvmint should
spend money on the program I want because that's better than spending it
on
X.

The technique relieves that proponent of having to justify on its own the
program he wants, or to consider the possibility that perhaps we'd be
happier if the guvmint didn't spend the money on either program, and
didn't
take the money out of our pockets in the first place.


I don't think there's much in the way of argument about which is better to
spend money doing. Unless of course you think war is preferrable to
healthy citizens.


Tell me, please what's so healthy about citizens taking large doses of
LSD???

--
Gregory Hall

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:19:06 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

The technique relieves that proponent of having to justify on its own
the
program he wants, or to consider the possibility that perhaps we'd be
happier if the guvmint didn't spend the money on either program, and
didn't
take the money out of our pockets in the first place.


I don't think there's much in the way of argument about which is better to
spend money doing. Unless of course you think war is preferrable to
healthy
citizens.

So you simply repeat the fallacious argument.


There's no difference between spending on war vs. spending on health? Ok. I
guess I just repeated it again!

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:01:23 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

There's no difference between spending on war vs. spending on health? Ok.
I
guess I just repeated it again!

Remember those multiple choice tests you took in HS, Jon? There was often
a
choice labeled "none of the above."

Jon and his liberal ilk have one-track minds bordering on the imbecile
level. They can no more envision a path with multiple inputs and outputs
than they can envision taking care of themselves. No! It DOES take a village
to raise and nurture the likes of dependent personalities such as Jon Boy.

Not a one of them can grasp a complicated thought such as healthy citizens
being rendered unhealthy by as little as one terrorist dirty bomb which
could easily be the consequence of failing to be aggressive and vigilant in
waging war on Islamic Fascists terrorists. And, yes, the war in Iran is part
of that world-wide war against the Islamic terrorist threat. We pull out,
the Islamic fascists flood in. It's that simple.

But, liberals such as Jon Boy see their selfish selves as the center of the
world. All needs to revolve around them. All needs to be ordered to fulfill
their needs. All needs to be bought and paid for by somebody other than
themselves. That's the liberal world outlook. Somebody else's has got to
produce and they've got to produce according to the liberals concept of what
production means. Jon Boy is a looter. He could not survive without those
who produce taking care of his every need. And, sadly, he and his ilk are
not capable of seeing the world as it exists. They would dictate, from a
standpoint of utter and ridiculous ignorance how it should work. If ever
they got their way they would still not see their stupidity even as the
world crumbled around their feet as they starved to death. With their very
last breath they would bemoan that it's all somebody else's fault. Never
would they ask what they produced. The concept of production eludes them.
They are the elite. They are entitled to consume without producing anything
other than complaints. This is why they are so loathsome.

Wilbur Hubbard