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Thomas of Ireland and Cannondale February 29th 08 07:54 PM

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"Phil Abuster" wrote in message
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"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in message
news:wNWxj.11$4D2.2@trndny06...

Larry,,, it amazes me that people who seem to have a brain can't see that
the government does not care one hoot
about safety. All it wants is more money. What a joke. No wonder the
US dollar is worth nothing, no wonder the
credit crisis is so overwheming, .. we are doomed. How long can the
great old USA go on it we have the likes of
Clinton, Obama, Bush, McLiberal,, and the rest of them.

About a week ago I called to ask why there is no public dock for
recreational boats in Portsmouth NH.
You would think I was a member of the Talaban. Public docks? Who are
you?

So, I ask, where is all the boat registration money going?

I'm still waiting for the answer.

And now these lemmings want to give the government more of their money
for LICENSES?

ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?

WAKE UP...


Sir: (note the pun!)

The good thing about boat registration/permit/fee money is that it will
keep some people off of the water. The EPA is doing its part he

http://www.baypointpress.com/article...rticleID=17358

Note the size of the fee! By paying the money the environment will be
cleaner and global warming will be delayed.


What Global Warming? Are you totally out of your mind? There is no global
warming.

So really need reprogramming.

YOu don't get it .. do you? The rich guy wants you to pay or get off the
water .. he doesn't care
he is rich.

Do you think Ted Kennedy cares about his boat registration? Every time he
takes a breath, the earth is
warmed.

The EPA is a fraud. It goes after recreational sailboat owners but does not
touch big power plants.

REally .. wake up.. before it is too late.



Larry February 29th 08 09:41 PM

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"Sir Thomas of Cannondale" wrote in
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About a week ago I called to ask why there is no public dock for
recreational boats in Portsmouth NH.
You would think I was a member of the Talaban. Public docks? Who are
you?


There's three boatramps with nice floating docks, big parking lots for the
trailers and picnic areas for the family within 6 miles of my house, here.
There are more all over Charleston, Berkeley and Dorchester counties we
use. Some are run by the parks and recreations departments, some are run
by the power company up on the lakes, all are free for everyone que'd up
and laughing uproariously as the idiots in front of them try to back the
trailer straight down one of the multi-lane ramps....(c;

Sorry New Hampshire doesn't have them. Our gripe here is the parks people
try to make this beautiful landscaped park out of our boatramps. This
reduces the number of paved parking spots, so on a busy Saturday morning
there's trailers parked all over the grass by the time the fishermen are on
their way to the big ones. There's never enough parking or ramps in any
community with this many boat dealers and boaters....(c;


Larry February 29th 08 09:50 PM

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"Phil Abuster" wrote in news:1m6bs2.ijn.17.1
@news.alt.net:

global warming will be delayed.


Not a second. Global warming is caused by SOLAR ACTIVITY, not humans....

There's a new "Sun Scam" out now to try to squeeze more funding out of the
government treasuries. Look around for the new "Solar Dimming" buzzword.
Our fossil fuel burning is now dimming the sun and REDUCING the global
warming. This is one scam I think is real. From WW2 to 1975, the Earth's
temperature was DROPPING, then it started to rise after 1975.....EXACTLY AT
THE TIME WE PUT POLLUTION CONTROL CRAP ON ALL THE CARS AND INDUSTRY!

If we took off all the pollution controls and went back to what we were
doing in 1955, solar dimming would stop global warming! It only stands to
reason, but not what the Global Dimmers had in mind...(c;

Oh, and there's a MOUNTAIN of evidence that the CO2 content of the air
rises and falls as the temperature rises and falls for the last few million
years (6000 for you Christians). HOWEVER, as the graphs show, CO2 levels
rise AFTER the temperature rises and falls AFTER the temperature drops...by
about 100-300 years...LAGGING, not preceeding, the temperature. Why? The
rising temperature causes the ocean to BLOOM WITH LIFE that emits CO2 and
water RELEASES vast CO2 when it's WARMER. The opposite is true when it
gets cold...The ocean dies off, CO2 production drops and the water holds
the CO2 much better when its cold...nearly 100% when it's FROZEN!

But, alas, these FACTS don't produce GOVERNMENT FUNDING for the global
warming bureaucracy....

If there's no man-caused disaster....noone gets rich.


Larry February 29th 08 09:52 PM

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"Dennis Pogson" wrote in
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I have always held that you learn more in an hour's racing than you do
in a season's cruising.


I think that would depend a lot on how big the SEAS are when you're
cruising. You learn a lot as the waves get bigger than you are...fast!


[email protected] February 29th 08 10:19 PM

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On Feb 29, 7:13 am, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:
... I have always held that you learn more in an hour's racing than you do in a
season's cruising. ...


But, what you learn isn't all that helpful in cruising...

I grew up racing on boats. My folks stowed me aboard our old IOD
while racing within weeks of my birth (or so I'm told). I love to
race and I cherish the time I've spend racing. But, when I took up
full time cruising I came to realize that while sail trim and boat
handling are useful they aren't critical and they are only a tiny part
of what a competent cruiser needs to know. Actually, unlearning to
race has proven one of the biggest challenges to cruising for me.

-- Tom.


Goofball_star_dot_etal February 29th 08 11:31 PM

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:50:01 +0000, Larry wrote:

Look around for the new "Solar Dimming" buzzword.

Ok..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4171591.stm



Dennis Pogson March 1st 08 09:21 AM

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"Goofball_star_dot_etal" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:50:01 +0000, Larry wrote:

Look around for the new "Solar Dimming" buzzword.

Ok..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4171591.stm

I have noticed that "global warming" as a phrase is no longer used here n
the UK. They now refer to it as "climate change". Covers a multitude of
sins!

Dennis.



Dennis Pogson March 1st 08 09:36 AM

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wrote in message
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On Feb 29, 7:13 am, "Dennis Pogson"
wrote:
... I have always held that you learn more in an hour's racing than you

do in a
season's cruising. ...


But, what you learn isn't all that helpful in cruising...

I grew up racing on boats. My folks stowed me aboard our old IOD
while racing within weeks of my birth (or so I'm told). I love to
race and I cherish the time I've spend racing. But, when I took up
full time cruising I came to realize that while sail trim and boat
handling are useful they aren't critical and they are only a tiny part
of what a competent cruiser needs to know. Actually, unlearning to
race has proven one of the biggest challenges to cruising for me.

-- Tom.


Sure, I wasn't implying that full-time cruisers don't no how to sail. There
are lots of aspects to cruising that you don't learn while racing. I think
back to when I started racing and I guess it was being amongst very
experienced older guys that taught me most of the tricks, not just the
racing scene per se.

Cruising sailors probably don't get the opportunity to enjoy such an intense
learning experience, but acquire knowledge over a longer period of time.

Fact is, we are all still learning, even at 76! I don't remember going for a
sail when I didn't pick up at least one new idea! Long may it continue.


Dennis.



[email protected] March 1st 08 03:43 PM

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On Mar 1, 4:36 am,
tsmw...@mail wrote in message
......... I love to
race and I cherish the time I've spend racing. But, when I took up
full time cruising I came to realize that while sail trim and boat
handling are useful they aren't critical and they are only a tiny part
of what a competent cruiser needs to know. Actually, unlearning to
race has proven one of the biggest challenges to cruising for me.



What do you "unlearn"?
For some racing sailors, it's difficult to relax while cruising but my
observations seem to indicate that it's a personality issue, those
individuals find it difficult to relax *any*where.

"Dennis Pogson" wrote:
Sure, I wasn't implying that full-time cruisers don't no how to sail.


I will not only imply it, I will say it outright! Most "cruising-only"
sailors don't know how to sail as well as most racing sailors; just
watch the two sets of skippers dock their boats; watch them sail in
challenging weather; watch them observe conditions/weather around them
and plan their response & actions.

There are some skills in cruising that are not needed in racing, but
anyone who thinks racing doesn't develop a full set of seamanship
skills has simply not payed attention.

I could go further but this is enough inflammatory material for now.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Thomas, Spring Point Light March 1st 08 04:11 PM

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"Roger Long" wrote in message
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"Dennis Pogson" wrote


I have noticed that "global warming" as a phrase is no longer used here n
the UK. They now refer to it as "climate change". Covers a multitude of
sins!


And for very good reason. I encounter a lot of physical oceanographers in
my business. They say that the Gulf Stream is driven by dense water in
the arctic sinking, running along the bottom and rising in the tropics
pushing the warm water north. Fresh water is less dense. Is the ice
melts, there is less to drive the stream and some think it could shut down
over a period of time measured in just a few years or even months. There
is evidence of this happening in the past. The effect would be to move
Europe, and particularly England, hundreds of miles north climate wise.
Think of a nation needing to adapt to such a change so quickly. There is
a reason why the UK is way out ahead of the US on this issue.

Token on topic comment: It will also take longer for transatlantic sailors
to get to England but may be a bit easier cruising to Bermuda.

It is also believed by some climatologists that ice ages are actually
global warming events. The average temperature is higher but the
distribution more extreme.

--
Roger Long



Roger, hasn't all this happened before? Didn't England go through a period
refered to as the little ice age?
And what about the Norsemen and Iceland and "Greenland"?

I am totally against polution, and will support those against that .. but
this global warming thing is
political.

Let's face it .. :: birth control? Like, less people .. that would be a
good start but oh nooooo,, the
pols don't want that.




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