Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:05:05 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote:


Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


On Wed, 05 Dec 2007 08:29:55 +0100, BrianH wrote:



Bruce in Bangkok wrote:


Log Entry:

1854 March 1
On the this day the Lightning sailed 436 miles, which is the longest
day's run recorded by a sailing ship.

March 1. ---
Wind S., strong gales; bore away for the
North Channel, carried away the foretopsail and lost jib;
hove the log several times, and found the ship going through
the water at the rate of 18 to 18½ knots per hour; lee rail
under water, and the rigging slack; saw the Irish land at 9:30
p.m. Distance run in the twenty-four hours, 436 miles.

Oh yes he would - he would pedantically correct the "knots
per hour", calling it ''lubberly' and the author a 'girly-man'.



I'm not sure what the common shipboard use of "knots" would have been
in 1854. I know that the log was cast the report made would have been
"X" knots and "Y" feet, or fathoms, so possibly it would have been
common to talk of knots per hour. I'm fairly sure that the Captain
knew what it meant though.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Bruce?

I usually enjoy reading your stuff.
I often learn something as well as being entertained.

But...

Making fun of retarded kids isn't interesting, entertaining, or nice.

Just ignore him?

Please?

Respectfully,

Richard



I really do try and about the time I think I've overcome my addiction
to shooting him down here he comes again with another blooper and my
good resolve flies out the window.

But he did post a very rational message about bottom paint that I
answered in kind so maybe I'll cold turkey it this time.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Good Man!

I know it's hard.

Heck, I quit smoking six months ago and there is not a day goes by that
I doen't want to light one up.

But, temptation resisted is the true sign of character.

Stiff upper lip and all that rot?



Richard

I was wondering about that, too. My first impression was that someone
must be impersonating him. Maybe Tomcat Wentworth Cannondale? He
sometimes is coherent, and asks all his practical questions under fake
names.



But he did post a very rational message about bottom paint ...

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
...

Bruce, please stop answering any and all posts by Wilbur Hubbard. I'm an
insecure, little fraidy cat and the things Wilbur writes often get my goat
because the things he says make me think I'm not as infallible as I fancy
myself to be. Therefore, I have a twinge or two of guilt because I hide
instead of allowing thoughts that make me uncomfortable to be given even
an iota of consideration. I like being ignorant. I like the comfort of MY
thoughts undisturbed by any outside influence. I derive even more comfort
if I can surround myself with similar closed-minded people. So, join me,
Bruce, in my comfortable ignorance.

Richard

Hmmmmmmmm!

Wilbur Hubbard

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:28:01 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:


I'm not sure what the common shipboard use of "knots" would have been
in 1854. I know that the log was cast the report made would have been
"X" knots and "Y" feet, or fathoms, so possibly it would have been
common to talk of knots per hour. I'm fairly sure that the Captain
knew what it meant though.


Bruce-in-Bangkok

Hmmm..the chip log had knots at 47 ft 3.5 inch intervals,
so when the chip was cast, the knots were counted while
the 28 second glass ran.
The speed was reported as (the count of) knots.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:47:06 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Much snipped


Good Man!

I know it's hard.

Heck, I quit smoking six months ago and there is not a day goes by that
I doen't want to light one up.

But, temptation resisted is the true sign of character.

Stiff upper lip and all that rot?



Richard


I quit smoking about 20 years ago and for probably 10 years after I
quit I still felt the urge every once in a while to light up. But like
sex, the urge will diminish as the years go by.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:42:49 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:


I was wondering about that, too. My first impression was that someone
must be impersonating him. Maybe Tomcat Wentworth Cannondale? He
sometimes is coherent, and asks all his practical questions under fake
names.



But he did post a very rational message about bottom paint ...

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Well, his stories hang together, as he mentioned in a post some time
ago about still using TBT bottom paint and then his recent more
detailed post.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:47:06 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Much snipped


Good Man!

I know it's hard.

Heck, I quit smoking six months ago and there is not a day goes by that
I doen't want to light one up.

But, temptation resisted is the true sign of character.

Stiff upper lip and all that rot?



Richard



I quit smoking about 20 years ago and for probably 10 years after I
quit I still felt the urge every once in a while to light up. But like
sex, the urge will diminish as the years go by.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Uhm, thanks, I think?

No, actually that's real depressing...

Richard

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 20:29:54 -0600, Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:28:01 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote:


I'm not sure what the common shipboard use of "knots" would have been
in 1854. I know that the log was cast the report made would have been
"X" knots and "Y" feet, or fathoms, so possibly it would have been
common to talk of knots per hour. I'm fairly sure that the Captain
knew what it meant though.


Bruce-in-Bangkok

Hmmm..the chip log had knots at 47 ft 3.5 inch intervals,
so when the chip was cast, the knots were counted while
the 28 second glass ran.
The speed was reported as (the count of) knots.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK


No, the report would be made as "X" knots and "Y" feet, or fathoms,
unless when the guy pinched the line it was very close to a knot. If
you read some of the sailing ship logs you often read mention that the
ship was doing, for example, 10-1/2 knots, or some other fraction of a
knot.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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Bruce in Bangkok wrote:
On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 10:47:06 -0600, cavelamb himself
wrote:

Much snipped

Good Man!

I know it's hard.

Heck, I quit smoking six months ago and there is not a day goes by that
I doen't want to light one up.

But, temptation resisted is the true sign of character.

Stiff upper lip and all that rot?



Richard


I quit smoking about 20 years ago and for probably 10 years after I
quit I still felt the urge every once in a while to light up. But like
sex, the urge will diminish as the years go by.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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from address for reply)

Wilbur? You can't possibly let that slip by!
G

On 2007-12-06 06:07:42 -0500, Bruce in Bangkok said:

On Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:57:26 GMT, Jere Lull wrote:

On 2007-12-05 15:21:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Not to mention the fact he "bore away" which indicates he was running
so how come there is a lee rail underwater?

You can bear away from a reach, too..... Even square riggers could reach.


From what I've read they *might* get 45 degrees off the wind but even
then it was slow going.

Not sure they could get above about 60 without fore-aft sails, but even
with square riggers, the fastest point of sail is a beam reach, 90
degrees, so it's possible to bury the lee rail while screaming along.

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