Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
:

The high
oil costs are a direct effect of greater world usage.


I disagree. The price of oil is caused by these incessant wars the bankers
create to lend vast sums of their banknotes to governments, at interest, to
reap huge profits.

Case in point, look at this chart compensated for the bankers devaluing
their banknotes:
http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
Each huge increase in the price of fuel is caused by WAR, not consumption.
It is CONTRIVED, and was fed the ultimate gift by the false flag operation
of 9/11/01 by the criminals in power...in banking and in government.


Larry
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:31:41 +0000, Larry wrote:

Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
:

The high
oil costs are a direct effect of greater world usage.


I disagree. The price of oil is caused by these incessant wars the bankers
create to lend vast sums of their banknotes to governments, at interest, to
reap huge profits.

Case in point, look at this chart compensated for the bankers devaluing
their banknotes:
http://zfacts.com/p/35.html
Each huge increase in the price of fuel is caused by WAR, not consumption.
It is CONTRIVED, and was fed the ultimate gift by the false flag operation
of 9/11/01 by the criminals in power...in banking and in government.


Larry


You are correct that the price of oil generally goes up during a war
however at the moment the demand for oil is going up at a pretty high
rate. Higher demand, higher price.

But "contrived" is too strong a statement, influenced perhaps. I was
around the oil business too long. Oil is sold in many ways but a large
percent is not controlled by the international oil companies.

For example: for years the Internationals operating oil fields in
Indonesia had to allocate a certain percent of their production to
Indonesia for domestic use. At the same time the Indonesian National
Oil Company was producing oil for use in Indonesia. The result was a
substantial amount of surplus oil that was sold onto the international
market by local brokers.

In some cases oil was even sold at prices lower then benchmark,prices
even though it was in fact benchmark oil. Why? Because the national
oil company needed money.

My point is that the oil business is not controlled by a monolithic
block, there are a multitude of little guys that are , in many cases
selling below market because they need the money.

If Indonesia were to announce tomorrow that they had made a discovery
of the largest oil deposits in history the price wold fall
dramatically because oil brokers would figure that there would be an
oil glut in a little while.


Bruce-in-Bangkok
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from address for reply)

Bruce in Bangkok wrote in
:

If Indonesia were to announce tomorrow that they had made a discovery
of the largest oil deposits in history the price wold fall
dramatically because oil brokers would figure that there would be an
oil glut in a little while.



In 1978-79, I lived in Tehran, Iran. I worked for an American contractor
in the Iranian Air Force SIGINT/ELINT business. We monitored Saddam and
Afghanistan and along the Gulf, while the CIA kept an eye on the Russians
along the northern border from atop the Alborz Mountains.

I got to fly in the mission's C-130's across Iran many times, even though
it wasn't really my job description because I'm a good technician they
lacked. I'd fly every chance I got. When a Richter 7 earthquake hit the
little city of Tabbas, I flew 24/7 for over a week, sleeping on the
airplanes and eating MREs from a can delivering stuff to the refugees to
live on. It was awful. The whole city collapsed just as they were
eating dinner. 25,000 died in seconds.

I'll tell you where new oil is. It's in the Iranian mountains that have
never been walked on in the history of man. Most people have no idea now
VAST this country is. The population is centered around a scattering of
cities with an amazingly wide unspoiled wilderness in between. Iran's
mountains are some of the most beautiful places on the planet, totally
inaccessible on the ground. I sat for hours in the open aft hatch of the
C-130s taking it all in. Too bad cameras were forbidden. If we had
crashed, we'd still be there decades later.

As an example of what's in those mountains, two Americans who worked for
National Iranian Oil flew out to an area with no history looking for more
oil in a helicopter. They didn't find any. But, alas, they stumbled
upon the second largest deposit of virgin COPPER on the planet! Some of
it even laid on the ground! Noone knew of it, before, because in 5000
years noone had ever been there. There's only a shortage of ROADS and
PIPELINES in Iran.....it's why the bankers want America to attack them
next in their conquest for the "New World Order" Orwell described.

Larry
--
Xterm IS the ultimate video game...(c;