"Don White" wrote in news:46da0b39$0$4050
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"Larry" wrote in message
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A friend here in Charleston, SC, is getting
ready to sail his new Jenneau to Tortola he loves so much for the
winter
as soon as the hurricane season is nearly over. Then, he can fly down
and enjoy his big toy when work permits.
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mmmmmmm I am thinking of heading down to Roadtown, Tortola in
November.
Cheapest flight from here is about $750.00 + taxes & fees.




Flight? Don't you own a sailboat?

Stop by Charleston sailing her down. Many Canadians don't make it past
here, below the snow line...(c;

Larry
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:37:20 -0300, wrote:

Thanks, I meant chain plates. My boat has an 11 feet 3 inches beam, 6 feet
draft and 49 feet above the water mast.
The width of the steel cradle is 6 feet with 6 holding pads.
The question is how much will it take to capsize the boat on dry ground?

They make these steel augers which screw into the ground. Used for
tying down airplanes. Not very expensive.

Conversely, I have heard stories that leaving the mast on
during the winter may cause stress on the rigging and loosen the anchor
plates.

I assume you mean chain plates.

Since the coefficients of thermal expansion vary from steel to
aluminum, the one thing they won't do stay the same. Either tighter or
looser. Not sure which. Loosening the turnbuckels a few turns can't
hurt.

Casady

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:37:20 -0300, wrote:

The question is how much will it take to capsize the boat on dry ground?

Obviously the answer to that depends on a lot of different factors but
I've never heard of any issues unless winds were above 40 to 50 kts.

I do not know if this is entirely true, but some Marina in the US to not
allow boats to be stored with their mast up?

That is most definitely true. One of my old salboat marinas would
only allow it on the concrete portion of their yard. Others, not at
all.

Also some insurance companies may want an extra premium?

Possible but I have not experienced that.


Some marinas require mast down only because they have to go under
lines when moving from the lift point to the storage point!
G

"Don White" wrote in message
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mmmmmmm I am thinking of heading down to Roadtown, Tortola in November.
Cheapest flight from here is about $750.00 + taxes & fees.
I hope to be there in November.
Where's a good place to stay?

"JohnM" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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mmmmmmm I am thinking of heading down to Roadtown, Tortola in November.
Cheapest flight from here is about $750.00 + taxes & fees.
I hope to be there in November.
Where's a good place to stay?


For me it'll be on my buddy's 32 foot sailboat. At least, I hope it'll be a
good place. He tends to be a bit rough around the edges.
(think Capt Ron... the Kurt Russell movie)

I just got a reply from my insurance company.
I was given the ok, that the mast can stay up , without restrictions during
the lay up period. However, It was learned that they would be more careful
when a sailboat is 10 years and older.
I do not know if the 10 years old restriction is just started or if was
already in the fine print.


"Stu" wrote in message
. ..
I would suggest asking your fellow boaters and boat yards in your neck of
the woods. There may be reasons to take your mast down, most folks leave
them up. If it was me, I would go with the majority of boaters. You
could
also email your mast manufacture and get their input. Same with the radar
manufacture. Lastly if you leave the mast up, loosen your standing
rigging,
say 5 turns and note so in your log book.


Stu








wrote in message
...
This topic comes on now and then.

I just got a new boat this season. I am getting warm about storing the
boat
with its mast up for the north-eastern Canadian winter. I am not all
convince yet that it a good thing to do. The radar was mounted on the
mast
and the boat mast has two spreaders and in mast furling. When they
commissioned the boat, it took them 2-3 days to do so.

At this time, I do not know how long it will take me to get the mast
down,
taking care of the spreaders look after the radar and prep the mast for
indoor storage in a very crowded spar shed. Maybe the wear and tear of
removing the mast, pushing it in an already overcrowded spar shed is more
than leaving the mast installed on the boat. In addition, in the spring
at
launch I will have to tune the mast again and install the radar and
connections. Conversely, I have heard stories that leaving the mast on
during the winter may cause stress on the rigging and loosen the anchor
plates.

I would appreciate to get comments on this subject.

On 2007-09-01 16:29:56 -0400, said:

I just got a new boat this season. I am getting warm about storing the
boat with its mast up for the north-eastern Canadian winter. I am not
all convince yet that it a good thing to do.

We store mast-up, but drop it every few years for so I can do a
complete checkout of the rigging and fittings. Would prefer to have it
down every year, but it's an additional expense.

If you haven't inspected the mast, I suggest dropping it this time.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
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"Jere Lull" wrote in message
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On 2007-09-01 16:29:56 -0400, said:

I just got a new boat this season. I am getting warm about storing the
boat with its mast up for the north-eastern Canadian winter. I am not
all convince yet that it a good thing to do.

We store mast-up, but drop it every few years for so I can do a complete
checkout of the rigging and fittings. Would prefer to have it down every
year, but it's an additional expense.

If you haven't inspected the mast, I suggest dropping it this time.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/



Over here, we do not have a travel lift and with use a rental crane. It is
an additional charge to haul out the boat with the mast up.

We only started last year. The technique is a little scary. They use long
straps with a square frame and a rental crane.

Our spar shed was build to accommodate smaller boat masts without radar and
other mast mounted equipment.

To store the mast in the spar shed is getting to be like a doggy's
breakfast.

I am a little apprehensive that storing the mast in the spar shed would be
more damaging than the wear and tear of leaving the mast up.

The thing that I am concern about is the domino effect during strong north
winter wind.

On 2007-09-07 09:55:58 -0400, said:

The thing that I am concern about is the domino effect during strong north
winter wind.

That's the primary reason I prefer mast-down, as a boat fell over a
couple of seasons back in October.

After that, every boat -- except ours -- was given 7 stands.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/

Good point, my steel cradle is 6 feet wide and has 6 pads three on each
side. The pads are going 90 degrees up supporting the boat underneath with
the keel resting on a platform that is part of the cradle.
I was thinking of adding one stand on each side to supplement the cradle
lateral support.

"Jere Lull" wrote in message
news:2007090717353016807-jerelull@maccom...
On 2007-09-07 09:55:58 -0400, said:

The thing that I am concern about is the domino effect during strong
north
winter wind.

That's the primary reason I prefer mast-down, as a boat fell over a couple
of seasons back in October.

After that, every boat -- except ours -- was given 7 stands.

--
Jere Lull
Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD
Xan's new pages: http://web.mac.com/jerelull/iWeb/Xan/
Our BVI pages: http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/