On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:51:43 -0300, wrote:

Good point, my steel cradle is 6 feet wide and has 6 pads three on each
side. The pads are going 90 degrees up supporting the boat underneath with
the keel resting on a platform that is part of the cradle.
I was thinking of adding one stand on each side to supplement the cradle
lateral support.

Probably a good idea. Tie downs to helical anchor screws would be
even better I think but I've never seen anyone do that.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 18:51:43 -0300, wrote:

Good point, my steel cradle is 6 feet wide and has 6 pads three on each
side. The pads are going 90 degrees up supporting the boat underneath
with
the keel resting on a platform that is part of the cradle.
I was thinking of adding one stand on each side to supplement the cradle
lateral support.

Probably a good idea. Tie downs to helical anchor screws would be
even better I think but I've never seen anyone do that.

Does this mean that the probability of capsizing while on the hard with the
mast up is very remote?

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:42:53 -0300, wrote:

Does this mean that the probability of capsizing while on the hard with the
mast up is very remote?

I've seen it happen a couple of times so it's not that remote. There
are things you can do to minimize the risks but don't think you can
totally eliminate the possibility.

wrote:

Does this mean that the probability of capsizing while on the hard
with the
mast up is very remote?

I don't get it, what is the big deal about pulling a stick, unless the
crane is being operated by a bunch of boobs?

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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wrote:

Does this mean that the probability of capsizing while on the hard
with the
mast up is very remote?

I don't get it, what is the big deal about pulling a stick, unless the
crane is being operated by a bunch of boobs?

Lew



Cost of pulling and storing the stick(s) for the winter, cost for restepping
in the spring, hassle of extensive retuning.

"KLC Lewis wrote:

Cost of pulling and storing the stick(s) for the winter, cost for
restepping
in the spring, hassle of extensive retuning.

You gotta be kidding.

For openers, you store the stick on the boat, not some shed.

This allows you to use stick as a ridge pole and cover the total boat
including the rigging.

Trying to be a cheap skate and save a few bucks on an in/out mast
charge is simply not prudent, IMHO.

Lew

Over here It is more expensive to haul out with the mast up. We do not have
a travel lift
Normally we use a heavy boom truck to haul out the boat without the mast.
Then the mast is stored in a spar shed.
Lately people are getting bigger boats and the spar shed is overcrowded.
Storing a two spreaders mast with a radar antenna is risky and many owners
have found damages in the spring when they took their mast out. The other
way is to store your mast outside in the snow and ice.
Last year they haul out a 35 feet sailboat using a square steel frame, long
slings and a heavy duty boom truck.
The boat listed about 10 degrees but once in its cradle or water it was
fine. Never the less it does not give a warm feeling I would much prefer
using a travel lift. Should you want pictures let me know.




"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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wrote:

Does this mean that the probability of capsizing while on the hard
with the
mast up is very remote?

I don't get it, what is the big deal about pulling a stick, unless the
crane is being operated by a bunch of boobs?

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
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"KLC Lewis wrote:

Cost of pulling and storing the stick(s) for the winter, cost for
restepping
in the spring, hassle of extensive retuning.

You gotta be kidding.

For openers, you store the stick on the boat, not some shed.

This allows you to use stick as a ridge pole and cover the total boat
including the rigging.

It is the best way to go. For 25 years I had an A frame and tabernacle on
my 27 feet sailboat. Lowering and raising the 33 feet mast was no problem
for one man with any crane of other means. I had a roller stand astern and
roll the mast over the bow pulpit then I installed the plastic tarp over it.
But with this boat the stick has two spreaders and is 50 feet long with the
radar antenna mounted on it. I only wish I could do the same thing as I did
on my old boat.

I would be very thankfull if you could tell me how to use my two spreaders
50 feet mast with a radar antenna as a ridge pole and covering the total
boat.

Trying to be a cheap skate and save a few bucks on an in/out mast
charge is simply not prudent, IMHO.

Lew

On Sat, 8 Sep 2007 14:42:30 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

Trying to be a cheap skate and save a few bucks on an in/out mast
charge is simply not prudent, IMHO.

It depends on the boat and it depends on the boat yard. If you have a
multi-spreader mast with rod rigging and a lot of electronics the
total cost can easily exceed $2000 for unstepping, dissassembly,
storage, re-assembly, tuning, etc.

If you store with the mast up cost and effort are zero if you leave
the halyards in, about an hours work if you run in messenger lines.

wrote:

It is the best way to go. For 25 years I had an A frame and
tabernacle on
my 27 feet sailboat. Lowering and raising the 33 feet mast was no
problem
for one man with any crane of other means. I had a roller stand
astern and
roll the mast over the bow pulpit then I installed the plastic tarp
over it.
But with this boat the stick has two spreaders and is 50 feet long
with the
radar antenna mounted on it. I only wish I could do the same thing
as I did
on my old boat.

I would be very thankfull if you could tell me how to use my two
spreaders
50 feet mast with a radar antenna as a ridge pole and covering the
total
boat.

Build a couple of supports, one on the foredeck, the other in the
cockpit to support the mast such that with the radar antenna in place,
it will clear the deck by 6"-8".

(You wanted an excuse for some woodworking anyway)

Lash these to deck of boat with some 3/8", 3-strand nylon.

Remove spreaders and store below.

Plastic wrap the last 10ft of each end of the mast.(Reduces amount of
canvas required to cover boat)

Coil the rigging and hang from mast with duct tape bridal such that
you don't leave any "goo" on either rigging or mast.

Center mast as required to provide clearance for radar antenna.

Cover boat with tarp and get a beer, maybe twoG.


When the yard pulls stick, have them place it in supports which you
have already put in position.

They can then lift boat, pressure wash bottom, place in the winter
location so you can go to work.


Lew