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Westerly 1970s all fiberglass 26 footer. Previous owner replaced mast
and rigging but in the process installed deck mounted connectors (good
quality marine type) for the mast wiring that allowed water to get
into a substantial wooden block buried in the deck under the mast
step. That block is further supported by a stainless steel column
that goes down to the keel.

During winter storage the water soaked wood burst the f.glass deck
around the mast step. It's now all replaced.

Now wondering best way to connect the revamped mast wiring (Approx.
seven wires plus an RG58 coax. for the top of the mast VHF whip).**

Certainly resolved to have any wiring holes and/or mounting screws
well away from the wooden block. Also maybe prefer not to have any
connectors at all?

That would mean poking the bunch of wires from the mast through
something (a caulked hole or gland or ???) in the deck to be, say,
connected individually once per season to a terminal strip in the
toilet ('Head') compartment below. Pondering various alternatives.

Any advice please would be most appreciated.

BTW ** We now have all the nav. lights on the mast rather than lower
down on the hull and cabin sides of the boat. The original (previously
replaced!) stern light for example was for ever getting stepped on and
damaged. The individual cabin side port/starboard lights had long ago
been replaced by a red/green bow pulpit one that also suffered damage
and or got tangled with jib sheets etc. Any comments/advice on this
also appreciated.

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:59:51 -0700, terry
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Westerly 1970s all fiberglass 26 footer. Previous owner replaced mast
and rigging but in the process installed deck mounted connectors (good
quality marine type) for the mast wiring that allowed water to get
into a substantial wooden block buried in the deck under the mast
step. That block is further supported by a stainless steel column
that goes down to the keel.

During winter storage the water soaked wood burst the f.glass deck
around the mast step. It's now all replaced.

Now wondering best way to connect the revamped mast wiring (Approx.
seven wires plus an RG58 coax. for the top of the mast VHF whip).**

Certainly resolved to have any wiring holes and/or mounting screws
well away from the wooden block. Also maybe prefer not to have any
connectors at all?

That would mean poking the bunch of wires from the mast through
something (a caulked hole or gland or ???) in the deck to be, say,
connected individually once per season to a terminal strip in the
toilet ('Head') compartment below. Pondering various alternatives.

Any advice please would be most appreciated.

BTW ** We now have all the nav. lights on the mast rather than lower
down on the hull and cabin sides of the boat. The original (previously
replaced!) stern light for example was for ever getting stepped on and
damaged. The individual cabin side port/starboard lights had long ago
been replaced by a red/green bow pulpit one that also suffered damage
and or got tangled with jib sheets etc. Any comments/advice on this
also appreciated.


If I were you I'd pull all the wiring is it looked at all "old" and
replace it. The RG58 I would replace with low loss cable - ping larry
for details there.

Use a tricolor with an integral anchor light on the mast head and a
motoring light at the spreaders. That should be sufficient.

So, 1 ground, 1 RF coaxial, 4 positive = 6 wires. If you install
spreader lights, which are nice at night, then it is 1 more wire.
Remember that the ground has to carry the return for 4 separate
lights.

Id bring all the wires out the side of the mast just above the foot
and build or buy an inverted "J" shaped electrical entrance fitting
large enough to take all the wires plus the coax fitting. I looked
around but couldn;t find a picture of the entrance fitting but it
would be about a 1-1/4 - 1-1/2 inch stainless "U" fitting with a short
section welded to one leg so it looks like a "J". The longer leg is
welded to a flange and you just bore a hole in the deck, waterproof
the deck core with a bit of epoxy resin and install the fitting with
screws through the flange, using proper marine caulking.

Then when the mast is up you poke the wires through the elbow and down
to a junction box somewhere inside the boat.

Do use proper boat wire, or equipment wire it may be called. Tin
coated copper stranded wire, anyway Costs a bit more and lasts a lot
longer.



..


Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:45:18 -0500, "KLC Lewis"
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"Armond Perretta" wrote in message
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Use a tricolor with an integral anchor light on the mast head and a
motoring light at the spreaders. That should be sufficient.

Bruce in Bangkok


I don't know what the rules are in Bangkok, but in the States and most
European countries the mast light (aka "steaming light") must be mounted
_above_ the other lights (red/green/stern) when under power (or for that
matter when the engine is running even when not in gear)..

This means obviously that using a masthead tricolor with a steaming light
mounted somewhere lower on the mast is in violation.

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This is not correct.

http://www.answers.com/topic/navigation-lights


Your link agrees with what Armond said. The picture "Under Sail"
shows the masthead tri-color. The picture "Under Power" shows the
red-green bow and the white stern with the higher white steaming
light.

Steve


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"Steve" wrote in message
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Your link agrees with what Armond said. The picture "Under Sail"
shows the masthead tri-color. The picture "Under Power" shows the
red-green bow and the white stern with the higher white steaming
light.

Steve


I seem to recall reading, somewhere, that sailing vessels under 39' can
combine the stern and steaming lights into the masthead tri-color. But I may
be mistaken.


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On Aug 23, 1:45 pm, "KLC Lewis" wrote:
"Armond Perretta" wrote in message

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Use a tricolor with an integral anchor light on the mast head and a
motoring light at the spreaders. That should be sufficient.


Bruce in Bangkok


I don't know what the rules are in Bangkok, but in the States and most
European countries the mast light (aka "steaming light") must be mounted
_above_ the other lights (red/green/stern) when under power (or for that
matter when the engine is running even when not in gear)..


This means obviously that using a masthead tricolor with a steaming light
mounted somewhere lower on the mast is in violation.


--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://home.comcast.net/~kerrydeare


This is not correct.

http://www.answers.com/topic/navigation-lights- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"The boat must also display a white masthead light visible for 5
miles" taken from your link however the word masthead should read
Steaming... as in the accompanying diagram.

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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 12:54:07 -0400, "Armond Perretta"
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This means obviously that using a masthead tricolor with a steaming light
mounted somewhere lower on the mast is in violation.


Yes. You need to have another set of nav lights down near deck level
for motoring. I don't believe that any reasonable person would regard
running the engine out of gear for battery charging purposes as
motoring.
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Wayne.B wrote:
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...I don't believe that any reasonable person would regard
running the engine out of gear for battery charging purposes as
motoring.


Unless that "reasonable person" happened to be a judge in Admiralty Court.
In gear or out, when the machinery is running, the vessel must follow motor
boat rules.

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On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:48:47 -0400, "Armond Perretta"
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Unless that "reasonable person" happened to be a judge in Admiralty Court.
In gear or out, when the machinery is running, the vessel must follow motor
boat rules.


Please explain to me the difference between running an engine out of
gear to charge batteries and running a generator.

Are you saying that if you run a generator you are no longer a
sailboat? Highly unlikely. Quoting Dickens' Oliver Twist: "If that
is the law, then the law is an ass".

What say resident counselor Dave?


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