doug dotson wrote:

Well, that pretty much confirms my experience with surveyors.
Maybe I should just use the same one everytime. At least I
won't be constantly change things back and forth.

Why on Earth would you change anything just because some "surveyor" told
you to? If any surveyor claims that your boat is not within specs on any
item it is his duty to demonstrate exactly what is wrong, what the rules
or regulations require and what options you have to correct the
deficiency. You paid for a written description of the problems and
verification that they were indeed problems.

You have to take as much blame on that deal as the incompetent
"surveyor" you let lead you down the dock. If this was recent I would
take the survey and a copy of the relevant CFR's and ABYC standards to
him and suggest he pay your costs imposed his incompetence. While you
are at it document the event thoroughly and submit all the information
along with the "surveyors" repsonse to the organization which
"certified" the cretin.

Small claims court may be an option if you are stonewalled because of
his disclaimers.

Rick

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Doug

"Rick" wrote in message
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doug dotson wrote:

Well, that pretty much confirms my experience with surveyors.
Maybe I should just use the same one everytime. At least I
won't be constantly change things back and forth.

Why on Earth would you change anything just because some "surveyor" told
you to?

Actually, I didn't change anything directly because the surveyor told
me to but rather that the items were listed under "Required Items" and
the finance company and/or insurance company made me change them.

If any surveyor claims that your boat is not within specs on any
item it is his duty to demonstrate exactly what is wrong, what the rules
or regulations require and what options you have to correct the
deficiency. You paid for a written description of the problems and
verification that they were indeed problems.

I'm not sure all this is true. I did send a letter to one of the surveyors
and got
no response. I also sent a copy of the letter to the finance and insurance
company and also got no response. The changes were more annoyances
rather than heavy hitters.

And all the surveyor's reports contain quite a few disclaimers
You have to take as much blame on that deal as the incompetent
"surveyor" you let lead you down the dock. If this was recent I would
take the survey and a copy of the relevant CFR's and ABYC standards to
him and suggest he pay your costs imposed his incompetence. While you
are at it document the event thoroughly and submit all the information
along with the "surveyors" repsonse to the organization which
"certified" the cretin.

Life's too short to get one's shorts in a wad. I'd rather deal with it and
cruise.
Normal life is hard enough to keep up with while cruising without having to
manage a lawsuit as well.


Small claims court may be an option if you are stonewalled because of
his disclaimers.

As I said earlier, these were not terribly expensive to comply with. It is
just
annoying that there seems to be a lack of consistency in this field.

Rick

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Doug

"Rick" wrote in message
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doug dotson wrote:

Well, that pretty much confirms my experience with surveyors.
Maybe I should just use the same one everytime. At least I
won't be constantly change things back and forth.

Why on Earth would you change anything just because some "surveyor" told
you to?

Actually, I didn't change anything directly because the surveyor told
me to but rather that the items were listed under "Required Items" and
the finance company and/or insurance company made me change them.

If any surveyor claims that your boat is not within specs on any
item it is his duty to demonstrate exactly what is wrong, what the rules
or regulations require and what options you have to correct the
deficiency. You paid for a written description of the problems and
verification that they were indeed problems.

I'm not sure all this is true. I did send a letter to one of the surveyors
and got
no response. I also sent a copy of the letter to the finance and insurance
company and also got no response. The changes were more annoyances
rather than heavy hitters.

And all the surveyor's reports contain quite a few disclaimers
You have to take as much blame on that deal as the incompetent
"surveyor" you let lead you down the dock. If this was recent I would
take the survey and a copy of the relevant CFR's and ABYC standards to
him and suggest he pay your costs imposed his incompetence. While you
are at it document the event thoroughly and submit all the information
along with the "surveyors" repsonse to the organization which
"certified" the cretin.

Life's too short to get one's shorts in a wad. I'd rather deal with it and
cruise.
Normal life is hard enough to keep up with while cruising without having to
manage a lawsuit as well.


Small claims court may be an option if you are stonewalled because of
his disclaimers.

As I said earlier, these were not terribly expensive to comply with. It is
just
annoying that there seems to be a lack of consistency in this field.

Rick