On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 18:02:44 +0000, Chuck Bollinger wrote:

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:09:48 +0000, Wim wrote:


Earlier this year Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) introduced the
Permanent Resident Card to increase border security, improve the integrity of
the immigration process, and provide holders with secure proof of their
permanent residence status when re-entering Canada.



I'm a bit confused here.

Is this in addition to, or in place of, a passport? And does it only refer
to
"landed immigrants" or do citizens (like me) have to get one too?

Just one more reason NOT to go to the US. (although I guess we'll need them
when going to Mexico later this winter...)

I usually don't mind complaints about the US and border stuff, figuring that
most of the time the complaint is a fair cop (I-68 comes immediately to mind).
But this card is Canada's invention, not ours. If I read it correctly, you (the
landed immigrant) would need this card for returning from a trip to Japan, UK,
Mexico... wherever. There is a similar message in another thread that tends to
leave the same impression.

It's not polite to make this look like all of this is the US's fault. We have
enough crap we're really guilty for - cut us some slack when we're bystanders.

Sorry if that was the impression I made.

True, I don't like the US and have many reasons not to go there. But I didn't
mean to imply that THIS was caused by the US. Perhaps I should have said "one
more reason NOT to leave Canada" - would have been clearer. It really just
results in more hassles at the border, be it from US Customs or Canadian.
Yes, I complain about Canadian Govt too!

I'm still confused as to who needs this card, though...

Again, my apologies.
Lloyd Sumpter