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What did these sailors do wrong?
http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stori...642a3b1 .html
Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? A fluke? How would a Mac 26M fare in these situations? If the boat isn't sinking, when would you send the distress signal? --Vic |
What did these sailors do wrong?
Vic Smith wrote in
: Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? It's been going on for days and is very well reported, here in Charleston. Trucks are being warned to stay off the high bridges. Winds were 50 mph here, yesterday and about the same, today. A front off New England is pushing this low backwards down the East Coast. Seas offshore of Charleston are over 30 feet high, according to a local radio station, this morning. Airplanes are landing with big crab angles at the airport as it's blowing between runway headings. The sky is clear, but 50% pop tonight and tomorrow as it approaches us. They had no business being out there, even in clear weather! This statement from the webpage says it all: "a couple in their 70’s and a 40-year-old woman who were stranded 200 miles out to sea." IN THEIR 70'S?! COME ON! How stupid is that, offshore 200 miles with NO YOUNG, STRONG BACKS ABOARD?!! As long as rich stupids like these are buying boats, I still say LICENSING should be mandatory. You want to sail...fine. You take the course, TAKE THE PHYSICAL TO SEE IF YOU REALLY BELONG OUT THERE (no matter what YOU think), then, if you pass all the REQUIREMENTS....then, we issue you a LICENSE, we can revoke when you are too old, to PREVENT YOU from endangering the lives of young rescue swimmers, helo crews and boat crews just because you are too stupid and pig headed to see you are too old to go "out there" without enough MUSCLE and ENDURANCE for that worst case scenario you should be REQUIRED to be prepared for. NOONE IN THEIR 70'S NEED APPLY! They should be PASSENGERS of ABLE SEAMEN! Larry -- This spammer called my cellphone: First American Payment 10101 E Arapaho Rd Richardson, TX 75081 972-301-3766 They were nasty when I politely said I wasn't interested....(c; |
What did these sailors do wrong?
On Tue, 08 May 2007 07:06:46 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stori...642a3b1 .html Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? A fluke? As of Friday morning, May 4, it was forecasted as a developing low pressure system with sustained winds over 30 kts. Hardly a surprise to anyone who was paying attention. How would a Mac 26M fare in these situations? Your guess is as good as anyone else. No one in their right mind would go off shore in a boat not designed for that kind of use. If the boat isn't sinking, when would you send the distress signal? If you have people seriously injured there isn't much choice. Boats are usually tougher than people, and broken ribs, dehydration, or hypothermia can all be life threatning. |
What did these sailors do wrong?
On Tue, 08 May 2007 09:21:52 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Tue, 08 May 2007 07:06:46 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stori...642a3b1 .html Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? A fluke? As of Friday morning, May 4, it was forecasted as a developing low pressure system with sustained winds over 30 kts. Hardly a surprise to anyone who was paying attention. How would a Mac 26M fare in these situations? Your guess is as good as anyone else. No one in their right mind would go off shore in a boat not designed for that kind of use. If the boat isn't sinking, when would you send the distress signal? If you have people seriously injured there isn't much choice. Boats are usually tougher than people, and broken ribs, dehydration, or hypothermia can all be life threatning. There were broken ribs in one case here. And the seas were pretty vicious from all accounts. I guess I asked this because I've seen accounts where some ride it out while others decide - with no injuries - to pack it in, leaving their vessels for salvors. Probably too individual a thing to answer unless you've gone through it. And maybe, despite all efforts, I could get caught in a similar situation, and I'm thinking that there are some measures of preparedness that could help ride it out. Sea anchors, harnesses, topside liferafts that would deploy if the boat sank, personal EPIRB's, etc. Could be that preparedness would lessen the urge to abandon. Just hate the thought of abandoning a boat and putting the coasties at risk when it's not a vital need. --Vic |
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On Tue, 08 May 2007 12:44:49 +0000, Larry wrote:
Vic Smith wrote in : Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? It's been going on for days and is very well reported, here in Charleston. Trucks are being warned to stay off the high bridges. Winds were 50 mph here, yesterday and about the same, today. A front off New England is pushing this low backwards down the East Coast. Seas offshore of Charleston are over 30 feet high, according to a local radio station, this morning. Airplanes are landing with big crab angles at the airport as it's blowing between runway headings. The sky is clear, but 50% pop tonight and tomorrow as it approaches us. They had no business being out there, even in clear weather! This statement from the webpage says it all: "a couple in their 70’s and a 40-year-old woman who were stranded 200 miles out to sea." IN THEIR 70'S?! COME ON! How stupid is that, offshore 200 miles with NO YOUNG, STRONG BACKS ABOARD?!! As long as rich stupids like these are buying boats, I still say LICENSING should be mandatory. You want to sail...fine. You take the course, TAKE THE PHYSICAL TO SEE IF YOU REALLY BELONG OUT THERE (no matter what YOU think), then, if you pass all the REQUIREMENTS....then, we issue you a LICENSE, we can revoke when you are too old, to PREVENT YOU from endangering the lives of young rescue swimmers, helo crews and boat crews just because you are too stupid and pig headed to see you are too old to go "out there" without enough MUSCLE and ENDURANCE for that worst case scenario you should be REQUIRED to be prepared for. NOONE IN THEIR 70'S NEED APPLY! They should be PASSENGERS of ABLE SEAMEN! Can't argue with most of that, and won't with any. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message
... http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stori...642a3b1 .html Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? A fluke? How would a Mac 26M fare in these situations? If the boat isn't sinking, when would you send the distress signal? --Vic You'd be dead in short order. Have any idea what it like to exist inside a washing machine, only with drawers and shop objects flying around? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... IN THEIR 70'S?! COME ON! How stupid is that, offshore 200 miles with NO YOUNG, STRONG BACKS ABOARD?!! As long as rich stupids like these are buying boats, I still say LICENSING should be mandatory. You want to sail...fine. You take the course, TAKE THE PHYSICAL TO SEE IF YOU REALLY BELONG OUT THERE (no matter what YOU think), then, if you pass all the REQUIREMENTS....then, we issue you a LICENSE, we can revoke when you are too old, to PREVENT YOU from endangering the lives of young rescue swimmers, helo crews and boat crews just because you are too stupid and pig headed to see you are too old to go "out there" without enough MUSCLE and ENDURANCE for that worst case scenario you should be REQUIRED to be prepared for. NOONE IN THEIR 70'S NEED APPLY! They should be PASSENGERS of ABLE SEAMEN! Larry Well, that's the Nanny State solution, sure. The Free Citizen solution would be more along the lines of, "Go and do what you want. But if you get into a world of hurt and want to be rescued, you will receive a bill for our services." Nah, can't have that. Too much freedom. |
What did these sailors do wrong?
On Tue, 8 May 2007 07:23:16 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stori...642a3b1 .html Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? A fluke? How would a Mac 26M fare in these situations? If the boat isn't sinking, when would you send the distress signal? --Vic You'd be dead in short order. Have any idea what it like to exist inside a washing machine, only with drawers and shop objects flying around? No, never tried that. Are the drawers just dungarees or the wooden kind that slide into cabinets? Are the shop objects rags or drill presses and bench grinders? These are compelling questions. --Vic |
What did these sailors do wrong?
On May 8, 5:44 am, Larry wrote:
Vic Smith wrote : Anybody know if this storm was well-predicted? It's been going on for days and is very well reported, here in Charleston. Trucks are being warned to stay off the high bridges. Winds were 50 mph here, yesterday and about the same, today. A front off New England is pushing this low backwards down the East Coast. Seas offshore of Charleston are over 30 feet high, according to a local radio station, this morning. Airplanes are landing with big crab angles at the airport as it's blowing between runway headings. The sky is clear, but 50% pop tonight and tomorrow as it approaches us. They had no business being out there, even in clear weather! This statement from the webpage says it all: "a couple in their 70's and a 40-year-old woman who were stranded 200 miles out to sea." IN THEIR 70'S?! COME ON! How stupid is that, offshore 200 miles with NO YOUNG, STRONG BACKS ABOARD?!! As long as rich stupids like these are buying boats, I still say LICENSING should be mandatory. You want to sail...fine. You take the course, TAKE THE PHYSICAL TO SEE IF YOU REALLY BELONG OUT THERE (no matter what YOU think), then, if you pass all the REQUIREMENTS....then, we issue you a LICENSE, we can revoke when you are too old, to PREVENT YOU from endangering the lives of young rescue swimmers, helo crews and boat crews just because you are too stupid and pig headed to see you are too old to go "out there" without enough MUSCLE and ENDURANCE for that worst case scenario you should be REQUIRED to be prepared for. NOONE IN THEIR 70'S NEED APPLY! They should be PASSENGERS of ABLE SEAMEN! Larry -- This spammer called my cellphone: First American Payment 10101 E Arapaho Rd Richardson, TX 75081 972-301-3766 They were nasty when I politely said I wasn't interested....(c; There's no absolute age when you no longer belong on the water. One of the saltiest and most capable boaters I ever knew was cruising his 38-footer until a week before he died. In fact, we were with him when he started having chest pains one evening at the Silverdale town dock. We took him to a hospital to get checked out. That was the beginning of the end for him, he didn't survive the angioplasty operation the following week. He was 83 or 84, and his wife a couple of years younger. Two other friends of mine are enroute to Alaska right this minute aboard their 48-foot DeFever. He's 81 and runs the boat, she's 62 or 63. They are running a blog called Big Brivet's Big Adventure ("Big Brivet" is the name of their boat). On the other hand, my father is in his late 70's. He would have no business aboard a boat, even as a passenger. He's got a leg and hip that was messed up pretty badly in an auto accident 30-40 years ago and he thought he would just "tough it out" rather than get it fixed. He limped for a long time, but now he can't get around without a walker. |
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