"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:34:32 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
said:

Now do you see it is YOU who is confused?

Let me put this in terms even Neal can understand:

Charlie, which of Neal's header entries do you believe reveals Neal's
IP
address?


That's even more confusing since there's no "Neal" posting in this
thread. Doh! But, perhaps you think I, Wilbur Hubbard, am Neal. And, if
so, there is no place in my headers where it gives any hint of an
origination point. (ISP) Since people seem to think I, Wilbur Hubbard,
am a troll and they love to try to deprive me of my rights to post on
Usenet. They continue to holler abuse and they continue to send in
bogus abuse complaints. I use up to a dozen different NSPs none of which
list IP information. The only way to get IP information from my chosen
NSPs is via subpoena. Good luck getting one of them just because I call
you a drug abusing faggot or even a nappy-headed hoe or offend you in
some other way. A judge will laugh you right out of court. A known
netKKKop like Jonathan Ganz, for example, uses constant complaints to an
ISP when he can find one hoping to deprive an adversary whose views he
disagrees with of an internet connection. He got an alt.sailing.asa
subscriber by the name of Capt. Mooron booted off his ISP knowing there
was only one ISP in town. I am smarter than that. Let psychos like Ganz
complain all they want to NSPs. Should they happen to succeed with one
provider there are hundreds more to employ. He can't win but he keeps
trying. It gives me great pleasure when I think of all the work he does
and all the time he spends (and all for naught) and how frustrated he
must be when he remains impotent - a state btw, that is consistent with
his daily life activities off Usenet.

Wilbur Hubbard

I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/

"Anon" wrote in message
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I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to
me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/



Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaahha! Another loser.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Anon" wrote in message
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I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to
me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/


Cgocable.net. That sounds sorta familiar? Canadian, eh? Who do I know
in the Niagara Falls area. Probably nobody but I bet Capt. Neal does.

Wilbur Hubbard

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:55:21 -0400, "Anon" said:


I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to
me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/

Shoemaker, stick to your last. You're right. You're no expert.


You and I are both right - I am no expert, but I am keen to learn.

I am interested to hear from an expert (are you one?) on just how the
headers of a usenet message (any one) are deciphered .

I have no interest in hubbard/neal or whoever it is that seems to be seeking
attention. But, it is clear that this person uses
http://www.usenet-news.net/ as a news server. Anyone disagree with that? And
this can be accessed from anywhere - right? So how would YOU trace the
actual message source? I am keen to learn!

BTW - Could the Terranet guess have hit a NERVE? Seems to have - what else
would cause someone to "type" Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaahha! ?

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Anon" wrote in message
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I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks to me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/


Cgocable.net. That sounds sorta familiar? Canadian, eh? Who do I know in
the Niagara Falls area. Probably nobody but I bet Capt. Neal does.

Wilbur Hubbard

Up here Terra Nova is usually associated with the province of Newfoundland.
example.. http://www.pc.gc.ca/pn-np/nl/terranova/index_E.asp

"Anon" wrote in message
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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 17:55:21 -0400, "Anon"
said:


I am no expert and have no interest in this discussion, but it looks
to
me
like the messages come from:

http://www.terranova.net/

Shoemaker, stick to your last. You're right. You're no expert.


You and I are both right - I am no expert, but I am keen to learn.

I am interested to hear from an expert (are you one?) on just how the
headers of a usenet message (any one) are deciphered .

I have no interest in hubbard/neal or whoever it is that seems to be
seeking
attention. But, it is clear that this person uses
http://www.usenet-news.net/ as a news server. Anyone disagree with
that? And
this can be accessed from anywhere - right? So how would YOU trace the
actual message source? I am keen to learn!

BTW - Could the Terranet guess have hit a NERVE? Seems to have - what
else
would cause someone to "type" Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahaahha! ?


Maybe such a confident incorrect guess would cause it? Or maybe it was
well-known that Capt. Neal did useTerranova.net when he was posting to
alt.sailing.asa. All one has to do is google some of his old posts. But,
surely you don't think a world cruiser like the good captain would keep
the same old ISP that's limited to one geographical area?

Wilbur Hubbard