Gordon wrote in
:

http://www.washingtongasprices.com/tax_info.aspx

Well, here's MY answer:

http://frybrid.com/

3 of us with Frybrid diesel cars/trucks banded together to make oil
collections/storage/filtering less work and expense. One has a
warehouse, one has the filters and pumps, I have the Frybrid stepvan for
collections and the time to do it.

We've cut back our input because we got over 900 gallons of reserve
stacked up in the warehouse. So, we dropped one Chinese restaurant and
now only are collecting from 3, not 4. I filled up the 6.2L Diesel
Chevy/Union City Body stepvan, today, from our supply drum. It only took
22 gallons in the 32 gallon tank. 32 gallons will run it for weeks.
Mileage on vegoil INCREASES over diesel as it's a heavier fuel...more
power, too.

At our last "company luncheon" of the "French Fried Oil Cartel", at one
of our supporting Chinese restaurants, of course, we bantered about
buying and installing a 100-250KW V-12 diesel genset at the warehouse,
hooked to a bi-directional utility meter the government forces the power
company to install. If we add a few more Chinese restaurants to the
cartel, and they are VERY willing to give me oil, instead of having to
pay some Ecology company to dispose of it, we could be selling SC
Electric and Gouge up to 6 MWH of prime 60 Hz AC per day at a tidy profit
from the right diesel genset running off "Alternative Fuels". We might
even qualify for a Gummit Grant from the money mill to construct it!
That would be a kick to accomplish.

Fuel is running out our ears! I told George, in whos warehouse it's
settling out the particulates in as I type this, if we don't start using
more fuel, we'd be spending weekends driving our Frybrids back and forth
to Houston to burn off the excess...(c;

I'm running my Mercedes cars, a '73 220D sedan and '83 300TD wagon off a
mixture of 80% vegoil and 20% regular gas, at the moment, without the
Frybrid heating equipment. This mixture starts and runs fine from 25F
up. In summer, I'm going for a 90-10 mix. A $2 gallon of gas nets me 10
gallons of biodiesel fuel at 20c/gallon....a much better return in the
short run than even the Frybrid can deliver.

Maybe we should by a big Hatteras with 8V92TAs and convert those...

Larry
--
I must admit it IS still fun to stomp on the accelerator when the light
turns green....(c;

My only gas vehicles is my Honda mower and 2 Honda gensets and my late
father's '96 Chevy Caprice Classic Pig V-8 POS. The Chevy wouldn't be so
bad if it weren't falling apart at the seams at 61,000 miles. How awful.

"Bob" wrote in news:1169686861.276597.271040@
13g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices?
Bob



You don't remember "price controls" put on everything by the socialists in
the US Gummit back a few decades? Remember the gas lines? food lines?
Scarcity as products were diverted away from price controls to free market
areas?

Yecch...how soon we forget.

Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.

On Jan 24, 9:27 pm, Larry wrote:
"Bob" wrote in news:1169686861.276597.271040@
13g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:

Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices?
BobYou don't remember "price controls" put on everything by the socialists in
the US Gummit back a few decades? Remember the gas lines? food lines?
Scarcity as products were diverted away from price controls to free market
areas?

Yecch...how soon we forget.

Larry

When I was a kid i fond something called a ration card for fuel. I
asked my mom about it. She described how fuel, rubber, sugar, and other
things were rationed in the war.
Seemed to work just fine then.
But then there werent any Republicans crying about big government.
Bob

On 24 Jan 2007 22:10:15 -0800, "Bob" wrote:

When I was a kid i fond something called a ration card for fuel. I
asked my mom about it. She described how fuel, rubber, sugar, and other
things were rationed in the war.

Seemed to work just fine then.

Not really. How many gallons do you suppose would be allowed for your
boat(s)?

Be careful what you ask for. The one thing worse than expensive fuel
is no fuel at any price.

"Bob" wrote in news:1169705411.283435.123190
@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:

Seemed to work just fine then.


But, then again, you and I didn't LIVE through rationing in WW2.

I lived through "rationing" in the bogus "fuel shortage" of 1973, where
all the gas stations, full to overflowing with gas, were simply closed to
boost the prices. At the time, I owned a motorhome with saddle tanks and
they opened the stations one day a week with no limits on how much you
could buy. I filled the motorhome and parked it at home with 70 gallons
of gas in it. To go with the motorhome, I had a little Honda 90
motorcycle for local transportation when vacationing in the motorhome. I
drove the Honda, except on really rainy days, for the rest of the "gas
crisis", which was totally bogus.

My uncle is a private pilot. He took a news photographer, from the local
newspaper in PA, for a ride out over the ocean during the crisis to show
him the huge line of tankers waiting offshore to come into port and dump
all the gas aboard. Bogus, just a battle between America and Big Oil to
jack the prices to current levels.

Just like the inflated price of a car, truck or SUV....we've gotten used
to it. The Federal Reserve Bankers win again.....

Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.

In article . com,
says...


LarryBoy, not in Seattle - it has been going UP! $2.79 gal right now...

Same in Oregon................

Is it my emagination or is it the west coast "blue states" getting
stuck with high prices. Dont forget Hawaii. Oh, I forgot they put a
PRICE CAP on their fuel cost. Seems that state thinks their people dont
deserve to get screwed by the fuel retailers.
Gee what would happen if all the states put a price cap on fuel prices?

It MIGHT work if they put a wholesale price cap on the price of fuel
coming into the state. Price caps at the retailer just pinch his
margins and the cost of sodas in the mini-mart has to go up.

Mark Borgerson

RW Salnick wrote:
Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know:

Gas is $1.99/US Gallon in Charleston, SC, tonight. I filled up the
Chevy Pig. Not sure what it's doing at the fuel dock...

Larry



Boy, not in Seattle - it has been going UP! $2.79 gal right now...

Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message.

bob
s/v Eolian
Seattle

We paid $2.01 on our way to the Texas coast over
the weekend. The lowest we saw anywhere was
$1.85. Average around $2.07 probably.

Course after the Israeli's nuke the Iranian nuke
facilities later this year, the price is going to
spike up again. (you heard it here first.)

Don W.

RW Salnick wrote in news:ep8tbu$v5j$1
@gnus01.u.washington.edu:

Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message.


Sunoco? Sun Oil was from Pennsylvania, last time I checked...(c;

Gas is cheaper in Charleston because we are a gas dump from the ships. I
like to take those buying Exxon or Shell down to the Hess Oil storage place
to show them all the different oil company trucks lined up at 4AM to put
the same Hess gas in all the tanks...at higher prices, of course...

Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.

Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know:
RW Salnick wrote in news:ep8tbu$v5j$1
@gnus01.u.washington.edu:


Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message.



Sunoco? Sun Oil was from Pennsylvania, last time I checked...(c;

Gas is cheaper in Charleston because we are a gas dump from the ships. I
like to take those buying Exxon or Shell down to the Hess Oil storage place
to show them all the different oil company trucks lined up at 4AM to put
the same Hess gas in all the tanks...at higher prices, of course...

Larry

Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we
should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my
window still says $2.79 this morning

bob
s/v Eolian
Seattle

RW Salnick wrote:
Larry inscribed in red ink for all to know:
RW Salnick wrote in news:ep8tbu$v5j$1
@gnus01.u.washington.edu:


Maybe it is just SouthernBigOil that got the message.



Sunoco? Sun Oil was from Pennsylvania, last time I checked...(c;

Gas is cheaper in Charleston because we are a gas dump from the
ships. I like to take those buying Exxon or Shell down to the Hess
Oil storage place to show them all the different oil company trucks
lined up at 4AM to put the same Hess gas in all the tanks...at higher
prices, of course...

Larry

Then, as Seattle is the "dump" point for all the Alaskan crude, we
should have the same thing here... Instead, the sign right outside my
window still says $2.79 this morning

bob
s/v Eolian
Seattle
Problem is that you get Alaskan "crude". Charleston gets refined product
krj