Subject: OT - Lousy Canadian tipping
From: "Geoffrey W. Schultz"

In a large part of the world %10 is the average tip. Now what does this
have to do with sailing?


Everything. It's a know fact the only thing cheaper than a Canadian is a
Canadian sailor.

Capt. Bill

On more than one occasion I have seen Canadian snowbirds anchor off a marina
then, after dark, tie up to an outside slip, hook up their electric, spend
the night then depart before business hours the next morning.

I guess they settled their marina bill by mail.

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Subject: OT - Lousy Canadian tipping
From: "Geoffrey W. Schultz"

In a large part of the world %10 is the average tip. Now what does this
have to do with sailing?


Everything. It's a know fact the only thing cheaper than a Canadian is a
Canadian sailor.

Capt. Bill

On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:58:16 -0400, in message

"Jerry" wrote:

On more than one occasion I have seen Canadian snowbirds anchor off a marina
then, after dark, tie up to an outside slip, hook up their electric, spend
the night then depart before business hours the next morning.

On more than one occasion I have seen US boats moor at Canadian
National Park docks without paying the fees that are due. The
collection is based on an honour system deposit box.

I don't think either handful of anecdotes proves much.

Ryk

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Yes, I saw that along the Trent Canal this summer, especially Georgian Bay,
Boisle Island. I was docking or anchoring there and saw many boats dock,
leave their garbage, stay a few nights, and not pay nothing. It is an honor
system. American boats were there also, doing the same thing.

Tipping is not mandatory. When a restaurant hangs a schedule on the wall
regarding tipping, that is going too far. It is something that is earned by
the waiter. Should they require money for nothing or for no service, they
should just join the welfare rolls. Sometimes I tip very well, sometimes not
at all. More than a few times, I have had servers walking out of the
restaurant after me with their hands out, asking the same question "what was
wrong with my service, where is my money"?.
Mostly in New York, Niagara Falls, Key West, Key Largo, Toronto, Los
Angeles, all these places are "get you once, get you good" towns. The
tourist towns know that your typically going to visit one time so they know
they will never see you again, they try to maximize the tip from you,
suckers. This is the attitude.
More than a dozen times I have been driven to the airport by some van, they
always have a "tips appreciated" sign in the van, and always have their hand
out at the end of your journey. One time, a driver drove me home, and others
were in the van, I asked what the tip should be, someone said around 15
bucks, someone said they were not tipping, I gave the guy 7 bucks, it was
only a half hour drive for me, the service was 70 bucks to begin with, he
threw my luggage right in the middle of my lawn. Right in front of the other
passengers. So how much is enough to tip? Should be nothing. Remuneration or
compensation should be part of the employers responsibility. Not the
customer indirectly. These people are beggars. When I go to the barbers, I
see the booths set up with their jars of small bills, obviously there so you
can see it is their tip jar. Beggars. If they deserve a tip, they get one,
but it is not mandatory. It is a shameful thing. I wouldn't want to be one
of those beggars. Dont give me that **** that they are lower income, their
income is counting on the generosity of the customer. Give your head a
shake. Both the U.S. and Canada are social countries. Should they need
welfare, it is there. So your paying them for their ability to find or seek
a good job should you tip or not.
Tips are deserving, not demanding.








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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 07:58:16 -0400, in message

"Jerry" wrote:

On more than one occasion I have seen Canadian snowbirds anchor off a
marina
then, after dark, tie up to an outside slip, hook up their electric,
spend
the night then depart before business hours the next morning.

On more than one occasion I have seen US boats moor at Canadian
National Park docks without paying the fees that are due. The
collection is based on an honour system deposit box.

I don't think either handful of anecdotes proves much.

Ryk

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On more than one occasion I have seen Canadian snowbirds anchor off a marina
then, after dark, tie up to an outside slip, hook up their electric, spend
the night then depart before business hours the next morning.

Hey a friend and I delivered his new Hunter 30 back in 89 and we traveled down
the Chesapeak in Nov. and did this. We needed heat.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Subject: OT - Lousy Canadian tipping
From: (SAIL LOCO)

On more than one occasion I have seen Canadian snowbirds anchor off a
marina
then, after dark, tie up to an outside slip, hook up their electric, spend
the night then depart before business hours the next morning.

Hey a friend and I delivered his new Hunter 30 back in 89 and we traveled
down
the Chesapeak in Nov. and did this. We needed heat.

That's OK, most people would rather not wake up to a Hunter tied to their dock.
:-)

Capt. Bill

Capt Bill is a very rude (not) smart man that knows it all. He needs to get a
life and stop trying to be the know it all. Look at some of his other
post......


Everything. It's a know fact the only thing cheaper than a Canadian is a
Canadian sailor.

I'd say that most people who deal with cruisers can easily substitute
whatever nationality they want. Cruisers are notoriously cheap.

-- Geoff

(TCptn1) wrote in
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Capt Bill is a very rude (not) smart man that knows it all. He needs
to get a life and stop trying to be the know it all. Look at some of
his other post......


Everything. It's a know fact the only thing cheaper than a Canadian is
a Canadian sailor.

Subject: OT - Lousy Canadian tipping
From: "Geoffrey W. Schultz"

I'd say that most people who deal with cruisers can easily substitute
whatever nationality they want. Cruisers are notoriously cheap.


You are correct sir! :-)

Capt. Bill

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 16:03:15 GMT, "Geoffrey W. Schultz"
wrote:

I'd say that most people who deal with cruisers can easily substitute
whatever nationality they want. Cruisers are notoriously cheap.

Most of them have to be. Cruising is expensive, or can be, and the
opportunities to make money while doing it are few, and the expenses
are always more than you planned.

The opportunities for cruisers to carry excess cash are limited, as
well. Even in an age of plastic, most tip-earners prefer bills.

Special cases, cruisers. Of course, if they don't visit because they
don't feel welcome, or feel gouged, the whole economy of Bananastan
suffers.

R.