anonymous wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:50 GMT, Peggie Hall said:


That may have to do with the source of their electricity. If it's
supplied by an electric cooperative--which are common in rural areas,
neither the co-op nor its customers are allowed to make a profit...as
you said, they can only pass along their actual costs.


Classic example of what happens when you get the misguided guvmint involved.
Of course they make a profit by supplying the electricity. They just have to
charge more to the users who don't use it instead of just the ones who do.

Classic example of mouth engaging without brain. Electric co-ops are
"member" owned...the only thing the gov't has to do with 'em is the
regulation against making a profit. In fact, co-ops usually supply power
at a much cheaper rate than for-profit publicly owned electric companies.


Peggie
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

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Peggie Hall wrote:

anonymous wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 19:37:50 GMT, Peggie Hall said:


That may have to do with the source of their electricity. If it's
supplied by an electric cooperative--which are common in rural areas,
neither the co-op nor its customers are allowed to make a profit...as
you said, they can only pass along their actual costs.


Classic example of what happens when you get the misguided guvmint involved.
Of course they make a profit by supplying the electricity. They just have to
charge more to the users who don't use it instead of just the ones who do.

Classic example of mouth engaging without brain. Electric co-ops are
"member" owned...the only thing the gov't has to do with 'em is the
regulation against making a profit. In fact, co-ops usually supply power
at a much cheaper rate than for-profit publicly owned electric companies.

When I was farming I bought supplies and electricity from co-op.s.
Suppliers like Southern States set prices to avoid loss so there was
always a little profit left at the end of each year. That money was paid
back to "producers" (members) pro-rata based on how many $$$ each member
spent with them - an after the fact discount if you will that erased all
profits and made a nice xmas bonus. The electric co-op did the same but
all users were included as members. How that equates to charging
non-users instead of users escapes me.

Vito wrote:
When I was farming I bought supplies and electricity from co-op.s.
Suppliers like Southern States set prices to avoid loss so there was
always a little profit left at the end of each year. That money was paid
back to "producers" (members) pro-rata based on how many $$$ each member
spent with them - an after the fact discount if you will that erased all
profits and made a nice xmas bonus. The electric co-op did the same but
all users were included as members. How that equates to charging
non-users instead of users escapes me.

The way it works is, marina is the member/subscriber to the co-cop...and
it's the marina who gets the "master bill" from the co-op. All the lines
going to the docks and the meters to each boat are the marina's...the
meters at each slip are what the marina uses to itemize how much power
each boat is using...and it's the marina who's collecting from each one.
It's the same as if you'd put separate meters on your house, barns and
any other outbuildings or farmhand quarters and charged the occupants
for their pro-rata share of the power used. They pay you, but it's you
pays the co-op for the total amount used. What's illegal is charging the
occupants to whom you sub-let power more than just their pro-rata share
of your total usage.

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Peggie Hall wrote:

The way it works is, marina is the member/subscriber to the co-cop...and
it's the marina who gets the "master bill" from the co-op. All the lines
going to the docks and the meters to each boat are the marina's...the
meters at each slip are what the marina uses to itemize how much power
each boat is using...

Ah so! The marina I'm moored in normally provides water and electric as
part of one's slip rental but if you live aboard they charge a somewhat
arbitrary additional fee based on experience and boat size (ie, expected
useage). Most sailors only spend a few hours a month using services
because they're either home or out sailing so the cost is negligable. A
few like me spend most weekends working on our boats but aren't charged.
Fewer yet live aboard and pay extra.