Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?
Gordon

Gordon wrote:
Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?

Can you say "Bone Breaker"?

Lew

Gordon wrote:
Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?
We have one on our staysail.
http://triciajean192.home.comcast.ne...7-05-05-13.JPG
It makes the staysail self tending, which is nice, but I have often been
tempted to install tracks and winches for the sheets and get rid of it.
I certainly would not add one to a jib or staysail that is already
rigged to be sailed without it.

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Gordon wrote:
Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?

Can you say "Bone Breaker"?

Lew

"Foredeck depopulator."

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"Gordon" wrote:

Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?
Gordon

Gordon, I have none of the problems noted by other respondents.

I ordered my J/100 with the Hoyt Jib boom. It makes single handing (or
sailing with someone who is the equivalent of single handing) a dream.
Other than casting off from my mooring (and picking it up on return),
there is little need to go on the foredeck (although my kids do, to go
up to the pulpit or look around). Neither have had trouble negotiating
the jib boom.

I have raced my J/100 in club races on Thursday nights. The first year,
we got killed without a class jib (I used the Hoyt) or class asymetrical
(I had a cruising sized one). This year I went with a 153 and a
symmetrical spinnaker with an oversized pole. I left the Hoyt jib boom
in and just routed the headsail over it when we tacked. It did not foul
once nor did it interfere with spinnaker foredeck work (though we did
launch from the main cabin hatch).

If you have specific questions, just post.

I love both my boat and the Hoyt.

harlan

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To respond, obviously drop the "nospan"?

Dan Best wrote:

Gordon wrote:

Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?

We have one on our staysail.
http://triciajean192.home.comcast.ne...7-05-05-13.JPG
It makes the staysail self tending, which is nice, but I have often been
tempted to install tracks and winches for the sheets and get rid of it.
I certainly would not add one to a jib or staysail that is already
rigged to be sailed without it.

Nice photos on the website, Dan.

DT

Gordon wrote:
Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?
Gordon

Such as...?

My homebrew rig uses the spinnaker pole, some chain, and a sail cut
down to fit between the lower fwd shrouds.

It is no problem to drop the jib boom onto the deck and continue
sailing using the usual sheet setup while underway.

A single line (we call it the elevator sheet), in addition to regular
sheets, from cockpit to forepeak and then out to the aft end of the
boom and to the jib clew pulls the boom up to the clew and regulates
jib fatness. The boom travels on a bridle athwartships, which can be
adjusted from the cockpit to set sheeting angle for close hauling,
reaching, even running. The forepeak gooseneck is a short chain jib
pennant and a shackle. These simple adjustments are adequate. The pole
can be unsnapped and used normally in only a second. It is usually left
connected and lazy on deck. If not for the lazy third jib sheet, one
would not know it was there, ready, aye ready.

It makes beating against the tide in a narrow river a joy and grants
full sailing agility. As far as breaking bones is concerned, the
foredeck is no place for kids playing jungle gym, but I have stepped
through the gap foreward between boom and loose footed sail while the
mate steered through a tack. No problem either for crew asleep on the
foredeck, unless you lower the boom onto them. The aft end of the pole
does pass close by the mast at about nose height, and barely clears the
lower shrouds foreward. It works well and there is no clutter
associated with it.

If there is a problem with it, it would be in manoevering down wind, as
the jib cannot be easily dumped by simply releasing the sheet. You
would need to lower the boom on centerline before approaching a mooring
downwind.

Terry K

Well, my previous boat (51 LOA, 45 LOD full keeled monohull) had a
homemade staysail boom (not a Hoyt) we referred to as "The Widow Maker".
It attached to the deck on a stainless steel tripod about three feet
off the deck, was made of wood, about several feet long and very heavy.
We tried using it but it made being on the foredeck a dangerous
proposition.

The final straw for us occurred early one morning while motoring (no
sails) out of Puerto Escondito. We had just cleared the harbor and
were heading into a rough sea when the acorn nut that held the boom's
hinge to the tripod came undone. This probably wouldn't have been a big
deal except that the staysail uphaul was tied to foremost portion of the
boom, while an auxiliary uphaul had been casually tied to the boom's aft
most portion.

This created a perfect pendulum/battering ram effect, with the jib boom
swinging fore and aft along the entire length of the boat from a point
up high on the mast. With each roll of the boat the boom would come
flying past us, swing out past the aft of the boat a bit and then come
flying back the other way. This while my friend and I tried to grab it
as it went by before it hit something or killed someone. Eventually we
both stood on the dog house, ran forward and jumped onto it, tackling it
as it went forward, dragging us up to the bow and scaring the hell out
of everyone on board.

Good times, good times. We don't have that boom any more.


Gordon wrote:
Anyone care to comment on a jib boom such a Hoyt? Anyone using one?
Gordon

I wouldn't be blaming jib booms generically for this murphy.

How did you like it before it went berserk?

Terry K wrote:
I wouldn't be blaming jib booms generically for this murphy.

How did you like it before it went berserk?


Well, it made handling the jib much easy from the cockpit, and in theory
was a great idea, but I think the implementation was lacking. I'd have
preferred a light aluminum boom, and some kind of furler mechanism
instead. Came with the boat.

I left it on for a while but decided the dangers it imposed on the
foredeck outweighed the benefits it provided.