The power boat culture is not like the sailboat society. They can rock
your
sailboat with a big wake and wave their hands at you with a smile

Or just blindly tack directly in front of another vessel and then whine
about "right of way" having not taken at least the slightest look around
first.

There's enough idiocy around without the stereotypes, no?

The power boat culture is not like the sailboat society. They can rock
your
sailboat with a big wake and wave their hands at you with a smile


Bill Kearney wrote:
Or just blindly tack directly in front of another vessel and then whine
about "right of way" having not taken at least the slightest look around
first.


Why attribute "tacking in front of another vessel" to
blindness? Could it be a windshift, shoaling water, engaged
in racing?

If you had a clue, you wouldn't think that sailboats "tack
blindly" or at random, much less think they were under any
obligation to keep clear of motor vessels.

There's enough idiocy around without the stereotypes, no?


Then why be such an idiot? You only perpetuate the
stereotype of motorboaters.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
The power boat culture is not like the sailboat society. They can rock
your
sailboat with a big wake and wave their hands at you with a smile


Bill Kearney wrote:
Or just blindly tack directly in front of another vessel and then whine
about "right of way" having not taken at least the slightest look around
first.




Why attribute "tacking in front of another vessel" to blindness? Could it
be a windshift, shoaling water, engaged in racing?

Neither windshift or racing afford a sailboat any special privleges under
the rules.


If you had a clue, you wouldn't think that sailboats "tack blindly" or at
random, much less think they were under any obligation to keep clear of
motor vessels.

Many sailors think they always have "right-of-way" over powerboats. The
rules DO discuss a few situations where sailboats are the Stand On Vessel.
While these few cases are probably the most common situations most people
deal with on a day-to-basis - mostly crossing --- the situations in the
rules where a sailboat may be the Give Way vessel are more numerous. Many
sailors seem to operate onder the "Sail over Power" concept that does not (I
don't think ever did) exist. Sailboats are frequently under obligation to
stay clear of motor vessels.

Just another idiot powerboater whine.....


"Gerald" wrote in message
Many sailors think they always have "right-of-way" over
powerboats. The
rules DO discuss a few situations where sailboats are the
Stand On Vessel.
While these few cases are probably the most common
situations most people
deal with on a day-to-basis - mostly crossing --- the
situations in the
rules where a sailboat may be the Give Way vessel are more
numerous. Many
sailors seem to operate onder the "Sail over Power"
concept that does not (I
don't think ever did) exist. Sailboats are frequently
under obligation to
stay clear of motor vessels.

And mostly incorrect.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Just another idiot powerboater whine.....


"Gerald" wrote in message
Many sailors think they always have "right-of-way" over
powerboats. The
rules DO discuss a few situations where sailboats are the
Stand On Vessel.
While these few cases are probably the most common
situations most people
deal with on a day-to-basis - mostly crossing --- the
situations in the
rules where a sailboat may be the Give Way vessel are more
numerous. Many
sailors seem to operate onder the "Sail over Power"
concept that does not (I
don't think ever did) exist. Sailboats are frequently
under obligation to
stay clear of motor vessels.

What is it that you disagree with? Do you know the rules???

Sail boats DO NOT have right of way over anything. Do you think a sailboat
is other than the giveway vessle when overtaking a powerboat (maybe just
ideling along)? Try actually reading the rules and you will see that there
are many other situations where sailboats must giveway to power vessels.

FWIW -- I have over 50 years of sail experience and 10 years of power
experience. I have held 100ton ofshore masters license for 10 years.



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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And mostly incorrect.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Just another idiot powerboater whine.....


"Gerald" wrote in message
Many sailors think they always have "right-of-way" over
powerboats. The
rules DO discuss a few situations where sailboats are the
Stand On Vessel.
While these few cases are probably the most common
situations most people
deal with on a day-to-basis - mostly crossing --- the
situations in the
rules where a sailboat may be the Give Way vessel are more
numerous. Many
sailors seem to operate onder the "Sail over Power"
concept that does not (I
don't think ever did) exist. Sailboats are frequently
under obligation to
stay clear of motor vessels.

Gerald, Gerald. Firstly, there's no such thing as the "right of way" in the
colregs.

Secondly, as I said, "mostly incorrect." Of course, there are situations
when the sailboat must give way. You cited one of them. However, most of the
time, with sail over power, the sailboat is stand on. Besides situations
where there are commercial fishing boat engaged in fishing, tankers with
restricted maneuverability and the like, other vessels must give way.

Sounds to me like you need to review the colregs. Perhaps it's been a while.
Look at Rule 18 and go from there.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gerald" wrote in message
...
What is it that you disagree with? Do you know the rules???

Sail boats DO NOT have right of way over anything. Do you think a
sailboat is other than the giveway vessle when overtaking a powerboat
(maybe just ideling along)? Try actually reading the rules and you will
see that there are many other situations where sailboats must giveway to
power vessels.

FWIW -- I have over 50 years of sail experience and 10 years of power
experience. I have held 100ton ofshore masters license for 10 years.



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
And mostly incorrect.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Just another idiot powerboater whine.....


"Gerald" wrote in message
Many sailors think they always have "right-of-way" over
powerboats. The
rules DO discuss a few situations where sailboats are the
Stand On Vessel.
While these few cases are probably the most common
situations most people
deal with on a day-to-basis - mostly crossing --- the
situations in the
rules where a sailboat may be the Give Way vessel are more
numerous. Many
sailors seem to operate onder the "Sail over Power"
concept that does not (I
don't think ever did) exist. Sailboats are frequently
under obligation to
stay clear of motor vessels.

What is it that you disagree with? Do you know the rules???

Sail boats DO NOT have right of way over anything. Do you think a sailboat
is other than the giveway vessle when overtaking a powerboat (maybe just
ideling along)? Try actually reading the rules and you will see that there
are many other situations where sailboats must giveway to power vessels.

FWIW -- I have over 50 years of sail experience and 10 years of power
experience. I have held 100ton ofshore masters license for 10 years.

I have no need to whine, I know the rules.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Just another idiot powerboater whine.....


"Gerald" wrote in message
Many sailors think they always have "right-of-way" over
powerboats. The
rules DO discuss a few situations where sailboats are the
Stand On Vessel.
While these few cases are probably the most common
situations most people
deal with on a day-to-basis - mostly crossing --- the
situations in the
rules where a sailboat may be the Give Way vessel are more
numerous. Many
sailors seem to operate onder the "Sail over Power"
concept that does not (I
don't think ever did) exist. Sailboats are frequently
under obligation to
stay clear of motor vessels.

On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:03:36 -0400, "Gerald"
wrote:

I have no need to whine, I know the rules.

Pay no attention to Scotty. He seems to have OD'd on knee jerk
reactions. I'm sure we'll meet up with him some day after he tacks in
front of a powerboat in a narrow channel while he's motor sailing.

"Wayne.B" wrote

I have no need to know the rules.

Pay no attention to Scotty. He seems to have OD'd on knee
jerk
reactions. I'm sure we'll meet up with him some day

and wake him.