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Man dies in capsizing
http://www.king5.com/localnews/stori....4aa9b54f.html Sailboat knockdown near Seattle G -- Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee, and thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere. |
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"Gordon" wrote in message
... http://www.king5.com/localnews/stori....4aa9b54f.html Sailboat knockdown near Seattle G -- Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee, and thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere. Why don't you paraphrase the story... you have to register to read the page. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Basically, the 25' sailboat was knocked down in stiff winds. Three men,
one woman aboard. Two of the men went overboard without life jackets. One of the men was in the water about an hour before they got him out. Coastguard helo to hospital. DOA Boat righted itself. Gordon BTW, I'm guessing water was somewhat under 50 F at this time of year. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... http://www.king5.com/localnews/stori....4aa9b54f.html Sailboat knockdown near Seattle G -- Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee, and thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere. Why don't you paraphrase the story... you have to register to read the page. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Sheesh... bad news! Where was the boat? Wonder why it took so long to
retrieve the MOB... shouldn't take more than a few minutes unless you lose sight of him or you have no clue. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gordon" wrote in message ... Basically, the 25' sailboat was knocked down in stiff winds. Three men, one woman aboard. Two of the men went overboard without life jackets. One of the men was in the water about an hour before they got him out. Coastguard helo to hospital. DOA Boat righted itself. Gordon BTW, I'm guessing water was somewhat under 50 F at this time of year. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Gordon" wrote in message ... http://www.king5.com/localnews/stori....4aa9b54f.html Sailboat knockdown near Seattle G -- Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee, and thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere. Why don't you paraphrase the story... you have to register to read the page. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in news:11tqb777e8mft28
@corp.supernews.com: you have no clue Try this and see how you come out..... Take out your usual crew of people, some partially sailors, some not, don't do anything special or try to add qualified members to your little assemblage. Take her out in the harbor to a big open area with few boats you might endanger. Jump overboard from your lofty helm perch and start frantically screaming and waving your arms in distress. Click the stopwatch on your diver's Rolex Oyster to time this event. Watch the reaction from back aboard by your crack crew of wife, kids, friends, business associates and those still drinking your beer. How long was it before they got her turned around and came effortlessly alongside your position to retrieve you, using the finest navigation and methods of retrieval? Look up and down your dock. How many wives and teenagers are qualified sailors and helmsmen on all those other dock condos on your particular dock. How many wives have NEVER handled the boat by themselves? See why it took so long? |
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Larry wrote in news:Xns975AEE52D24E4noonehomecom@
208.49.80.253: See why it took so long? Ok, now let's assume you've survived that first test. Tell them your arms are broken and they'll have to dock the boat back at your slip without you. Go below and lay in your AFT berth until you can be hauled to the hospital ashore..... Under no circumstances get out of that berth until they get AC power hooked back up to your boat and you can hear the battery charger humming. That's fair, right? Is your liability policy paid up-to-date?...(c |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... Try this and see how you come out..... Take out your usual crew of people, some partially sailors, some not, Take her out in the harbor to a big open area with few boats you might endanger. Jump overboard from your lofty helm perch and start frantically screaming and waving your arms in distress. Click the stopwatch on your diver's Rolex Oyster to time this event. Watch the reaction from back aboard by your crack crew of wife, kids, friends, business associates and those still drinking your beer. How long was it before they got her turned around and came effortlessly alongside your position to retrieve you, using the finest navigation and methods of retrieval? I've actually experienced this scenario almost exactly, though it was my crazy brother- not me- who dived off the boat unexpectedly, and it was not in a "big open area with few boats" We were heading out for a race, had just hoisted the mainsail when the winch barrel on an old Barlow 16 winch popped of and rolled over the side (they had a spring loaded retaining mechanism which was hopeless). The crew consisted of my brother and myself (both with many years of racing and cruising experience) and a friend who had been out sailing a couple of times. As the winch barrel rolled over, out of the corner of my eye, I saw my brother dive in after it! We were in the middle of the channel leading out of the boat harbour with maybe 10-12 other boats heading out to the start- a few had to dodge him. He had actually grabbed it and was holding the winch barrel aloft like a prize. After the first few seconds of stunned disbelief, I explained to Graeme, my inexperienced crewman, how to drop the mainsail, we dropped it, started the diesel (there was no manoeuvring room in the channel to sail) and motored back to get my idiot brother. Total time about 3 minutes. I had been planning to replace that crappy old winch for some time, but, because it was there, hadn't bothered. It would have been an ideal opportunity- but it was still there when I sold the boat a couple of years later. Surprisingly, I still go sailing with my brother. Peter HK |
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"Larry" wrote in message ... pruned Jump overboard from your lofty helm perch and start frantically screaming and waving your arms in distress. Click the stopwatch on your diver's Rolex Oyster to time this event. How long was it before they got her turned around and came effortlessly alongside your position to retrieve you, using the finest navigation and methods of retrieval? As a matter of interest, do all US boats have boarding/bathing ladders? In the nice warm Mediterranean, most boats do. Easily the best and quickest aid to getting someone aboard in most circumstances. In the cold waters of UK, they're rare. Perverse? 'Blow up that dinghy - Fast!' JimB |
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Larry wrote:
Take out your usual crew of people, some partially sailors, some not, don't do anything special or try to add qualified members to your little assemblage. Take her out in the harbor to a big open area with few boats you might endanger. Jump overboard from your lofty helm perch and start frantically screaming and waving your arms in distress. Click the stopwatch on your diver's Rolex Oyster to time this event. I fell overboard last summer. We had 15 people aboard for a daysail (it's a 40' catamaran so deck space is not a problem). We were towing the dinghy and one oar had been left in an oarlock that was dragging in the water. I pulled the dinghy alongside as my wife was steering the big boat, motoring at about 6 knots. I hopped in the dinghy, one hand holding onto the big boat, one reaching down for the oar. The dinghy sheered off at the bow, tilting me too far over, and I was in the water, head first. The dinghy immediately took off astern. As I looked up from underwater heading for the surface, I saw the dinghy coming above me. I reached up, grabbed one of the handles on the side, and flipped myself in. I then *carefully* pulled myself up to the big boat by pulling on the painter and climbed aboard. Nobody had noticed that I had fallen in, though it only took about 15 seconds from the splash, to my reappearance on the aft deck. Somebody noticed I was dripping wet and asked when I had gone swimming. If I hadn't caught the dinghy, I had planned to be yelling very loudly when I surfaced! However I have every confidence that my wife would have recovered me in under 5 minutes in just about every condition. But we've sailed a long way together. Evan Gatehouse |
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:25:26 -0500, Larry wrote:
Look up and down your dock. How many wives and teenagers are qualified sailors and helmsmen on all those other dock condos on your particular dock. How many wives have NEVER handled the boat by themselves? See why it took so long? April 29 we launch. By May 5 I want to have the mast in and the wife backing the boat out and me just taking notes. We plan on living aboard in a very few years and we need to close the gap between her decent but scattered experience and my more methodical approach. R. |
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