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Glenn Ashmore
 
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If the yard has a boom truck on hand it is a lot cheaper. Especially if
they let you set the stays.

My problem is the yard is Savannah I was going to use to commission Rutu was
sold to Hinckley and no longer allows DIYers. The only other yard in
Savannah that can handle her is the former Palmer Johnson yard. They gave
me a great price for lifting her off the trailer, setting her on her keel
and launching her within 24 hours. I can work on her myself once in the
water but if anything delays launching the costs skyrocket.

I'm talking to Brunswick Landings now. It is another hour from home but the
travellift and yard prices are good and they allow DIYer. They don't have a
boom truck so I have to arrange stepping the mast myself. That's why I got
my prices.

You need to check again about that travellift charge. $6/foot should get
you in the water as long as you are not blocking her up first. The lady you
talked to probably didn't have a clue what she was saying.

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I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
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Glenn,,, just for fun I called around and found a guy who will lift my
mast and set in place. I do the turnbuckles, etc.

The price? $100.

------------------------------------

F'k them stinking marina's. We don't need no stinking marina's.

===============================================
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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The yards here in Georgia charge around $6-7/foot for a "haul". That
includes the haul out, blocking moving the stands one time and relaunch.
A one way haul without blocking or relaunch is around $3.50/foot. A boom
truck costs about $75/hour and time starts when they leave their yard so
figure $150 minimum . Add probably 20% for the yard markup and maybe
$100-150 for yard labor so $300 to $375 is about right for setting the
mast.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
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I am re-entering the world of cruising. It has been a number of years.
My base is New England.

In the last few days I have been brought to the point of absolute
insanity by two of the local marina's near me.

Today, I called a marina to inquire how much it charged to step a mast.
I explained to the woman on the phone that a boat hauling truck would be
bringing my boat [ I don't own the boat yet, I was seeking the info so
that if I make an offer I would know what the charges would be ] to the
marina where it would be launched.

At first she seemed evasive. She didn't seem to want to answer my
question. She kept saying she was looking for her "paper". Finally, she
said it would be $6 per foot of the boat when the boat was dropped off
and another $6 per foot of the boat when the boat was put in the water.
I asked, why are you charging twice. The truck is bringing the boat, it
will go right in the water. She then said "you are upset by how much it
cost". I tried to explain "I can't be upset since I never knew what the
cost was to begin with".

After she started telling me how I feel about issues I never asked her
about, I asked what was the charge to step the mast. She said around
$400 dollars. I almost fell over backwards.

Then, I hung up the phone.

Is this the way of the world in cruising? Have all the marina's become
thieves?









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Roger Long
 
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Default Marina Question ,,,

Check the yellow pages for some sign companies. They usually will
have a truck with a long boom and are use to handling long objects
with something delicate and expensive on the end. I used one in
Detroit and it was just $120 to get the mast down.

--

Roger Long



"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
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If the yard has a boom truck on hand it is a lot cheaper.
Especially if they let you set the stays.

My problem is the yard is Savannah I was going to use to commission
Rutu was sold to Hinckley and no longer allows DIYers. The only
other yard in Savannah that can handle her is the former Palmer
Johnson yard. They gave me a great price for lifting her off the
trailer, setting her on her keel and launching her within 24 hours.
I can work on her myself once in the water but if anything delays
launching the costs skyrocket.

I'm talking to Brunswick Landings now. It is another hour from home
but the travellift and yard prices are good and they allow DIYer.
They don't have a boom truck so I have to arrange stepping the mast
myself. That's why I got my prices.

You need to check again about that travellift charge. $6/foot
should get you in the water as long as you are not blocking her up
first. The lady you talked to probably didn't have a clue what she
was saying.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or
lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:rGNCf.1044$J81.453@trndny01...
Glenn,,, just for fun I called around and found a guy who will lift
my mast and set in place. I do the turnbuckles, etc.

The price? $100.

------------------------------------

F'k them stinking marina's. We don't need no stinking marina's.

===============================================
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:hHLCf.13866$Dh.5437@dukeread04...
The yards here in Georgia charge around $6-7/foot for a "haul".
That includes the haul out, blocking moving the stands one time
and relaunch. A one way haul without blocking or relaunch is
around $3.50/foot. A boom truck costs about $75/hour and time
starts when they leave their yard so figure $150 minimum . Add
probably 20% for the yard markup and maybe $100-150 for yard labor
so $300 to $375 is about right for setting the mast.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress
(or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:6VdCf.5682$Jn1.898@trndny01...
I am re-entering the world of cruising. It has been a number of
years. My base is New England.

In the last few days I have been brought to the point of absolute
insanity by two of the local marina's near me.

Today, I called a marina to inquire how much it charged to step a
mast. I explained to the woman on the phone that a boat hauling
truck would be bringing my boat [ I don't own the boat yet, I was
seeking the info so that if I make an offer I would know what the
charges would be ] to the marina where it would be launched.

At first she seemed evasive. She didn't seem to want to answer
my question. She kept saying she was looking for her "paper".
Finally, she said it would be $6 per foot of the boat when the
boat was dropped off and another $6 per foot of the boat when the
boat was put in the water. I asked, why are you charging twice.
The truck is bringing the boat, it will go right in the water.
She then said "you are upset by how much it cost". I tried to
explain "I can't be upset since I never knew what the cost was to
begin with".

After she started telling me how I feel about issues I never
asked her about, I asked what was the charge to step the mast.
She said around $400 dollars. I almost fell over backwards.

Then, I hung up the phone.

Is this the way of the world in cruising? Have all the marina's
become thieves?











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Thomas Wentworth
 
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Default Marina Question ,,,

Hey Roger ,,, that is what I did.. They will do it on the "side". No
problem.


The marina is full of @#$%^&&%%#$#


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"Roger Long" wrote in message
.. .
Check the yellow pages for some sign companies. They usually will have a
truck with a long boom and are use to handling long objects with something
delicate and expensive on the end. I used one in Detroit and it was just
$120 to get the mast down.

--

Roger Long



"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:UhVCf.14082$Dh.5454@dukeread04...
If the yard has a boom truck on hand it is a lot cheaper. Especially if
they let you set the stays.

My problem is the yard is Savannah I was going to use to commission Rutu
was sold to Hinckley and no longer allows DIYers. The only other yard in
Savannah that can handle her is the former Palmer Johnson yard. They
gave me a great price for lifting her off the trailer, setting her on her
keel and launching her within 24 hours. I can work on her myself once in
the water but if anything delays launching the costs skyrocket.

I'm talking to Brunswick Landings now. It is another hour from home but
the travellift and yard prices are good and they allow DIYer. They don't
have a boom truck so I have to arrange stepping the mast myself. That's
why I got my prices.

You need to check again about that travellift charge. $6/foot should get
you in the water as long as you are not blocking her up first. The lady
you talked to probably didn't have a clue what she was saying.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:rGNCf.1044$J81.453@trndny01...
Glenn,,, just for fun I called around and found a guy who will lift my
mast and set in place. I do the turnbuckles, etc.

The price? $100.

------------------------------------

F'k them stinking marina's. We don't need no stinking marina's.

===============================================
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:hHLCf.13866$Dh.5437@dukeread04...
The yards here in Georgia charge around $6-7/foot for a "haul". That
includes the haul out, blocking moving the stands one time and
relaunch. A one way haul without blocking or relaunch is around
$3.50/foot. A boom truck costs about $75/hour and time starts when
they leave their yard so figure $150 minimum . Add probably 20% for
the yard markup and maybe $100-150 for yard labor so $300 to $375 is
about right for setting the mast.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or
lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Thomas Wentworth" wrote in message
news:6VdCf.5682$Jn1.898@trndny01...
I am re-entering the world of cruising. It has been a number of years.
My base is New England.

In the last few days I have been brought to the point of absolute
insanity by two of the local marina's near me.

Today, I called a marina to inquire how much it charged to step a
mast. I explained to the woman on the phone that a boat hauling truck
would be bringing my boat [ I don't own the boat yet, I was seeking
the info so that if I make an offer I would know what the charges
would be ] to the marina where it would be launched.

At first she seemed evasive. She didn't seem to want to answer my
question. She kept saying she was looking for her "paper". Finally,
she said it would be $6 per foot of the boat when the boat was dropped
off and another $6 per foot of the boat when the boat was put in the
water. I asked, why are you charging twice. The truck is bringing the
boat, it will go right in the water. She then said "you are upset by
how much it cost". I tried to explain "I can't be upset since I never
knew what the cost was to begin with".

After she started telling me how I feel about issues I never asked her
about, I asked what was the charge to step the mast. She said around
$400 dollars. I almost fell over backwards.

Then, I hung up the phone.

Is this the way of the world in cruising? Have all the marina's
become thieves?













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purple_stars
 
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Default Marina Question ,,,

hi folks,

this is just a response in general to the prices of stepping and
unstepping the mast. not that you would ever want to, but ... can't
you do this by hand too ? i'm sure i read an article somewhere
recently about using your own lines, making some kind of an upside down
"V" shaped lever, etc, and using that to put your own mast up. it
didn't look particularly hard, though i see no reason for doing it
yourself like that if there is a perfectly good crane sitting there at
the yard just waiting for your business. anyone ever done this,
step/un-step your own mast without the use of a crane, on a large
enough boat you need mechanical assistance i mean ? how hard was it ?
seems like it would be a good skill to know in case of emergencies,
though i'm not sure you'd ever do it ... i guess if the mast goes over
the side most of the time you're more worried about cutting it loose
and getting it away from the boat so you don't get a hole in your hull
than you are about saving the mast

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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
I'm talking to Brunswick Landings now. It is another hour from home but the
travellift and yard prices are good and they allow DIYer. They don't have a
boom truck so I have to arrange stepping the mast myself. That's why I got
my prices.


Glenn, Try Two-Way Fish Camp (Marina) 912-265-0410...Two-Way Boat Yard
912-265-6944 . It's about 20 miles north of Brunswick where highway 17
crosses the Altamaha River. Travel-lift, DIY, mechanics, etc. It's
probably cheaper and there's no pulp mill, sewage plant stink. Sam



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Glenn Ashmore
 
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Glenn, Try Two-Way Fish Camp (Marina) 912-265-0410...Two-Way Boat Yard
912-265-6944 . It's about 20 miles north of Brunswick where highway 17
crosses the Altamaha River. Travel-lift, DIY, mechanics, etc. It's
probably cheaper and there's no pulp mill, sewage plant stink. Sam


I had no idea Two-Way had a travelift. Haven't been in the South Altamaha
area in years. Another advantage for me is I have a place to stay in
Darien. I will call tomorrow and see if they can handle a 6'6" draft.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


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"Sam" wrote in message
oups.com...

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
I'm talking to Brunswick Landings now. It is another hour from home but

the
travellift and yard prices are good and they allow DIYer. They don't

have a
boom truck so I have to arrange stepping the mast myself. That's why I

got
my prices.


Glenn, Try Two-Way Fish Camp (Marina) 912-265-0410...Two-Way Boat Yard
912-265-6944 . It's about 20 miles north of Brunswick where highway 17
crosses the Altamaha River. Travel-lift, DIY, mechanics, etc. It's
probably cheaper and there's no pulp mill, sewage plant stink. Sam


You didn't mention Mudcat Charley's. When we were in there a couple years
ago waiting for some friends to go back in the water, we would have our
afternoon refreshments there. Had a great three days there.

Leanne


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Glenn Ashmore wrote:
The yards here in Georgia charge around $6-7/foot for a "haul". That
includes the haul out, blocking moving the stands one time and relaunch. A
one way haul without blocking or relaunch is around $3.50/foot. A boom
truck costs about $75/hour and time starts when they leave their yard so
figure $150 minimum . Add probably 20% for the yard markup and maybe
$100-150 for yard labor so $300 to $375 is about right for setting the mast.


My yard steps and unsteps masts in the Travellift's "well", using an old
crane they have there for that purpose.

The cost is $2.00 per foot, each way, i.e. $120. to unstep, $120. to
step when you're done working on it.

Jonathan

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