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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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(b) The term "power-driven vessel" means any vessel propelled by
machinery.

And your motor is not propelling machinery?

Try reading (b) again.


And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.

Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?

"vessel propelled by machinery"

When your vessel's engine is off and/or you're not using it to move the
vessel and you're not at anchor or at the dock, you're considered to be a
vessel not under command.

Fishing boats have special status... look up commercial fishing vessel
engaged in fishing.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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So my "power boat" is not a power boat for rules when the motor is turned
off and I am drifting?

Bill, have you read the Collision Regulations and do you not understand
them? Have you read the correct terminology that is fully explained in
these regulations? If not, why don't you get a copy of them and read
them from cover to cover so that you are better informed before you write
such questions as you wrote above. Everything that you are asking is fully
explained in the Collision Regulations. For example, your question that
you are now asking is explained in Rule 3 General Definitions (a)

Got that Bill?

Jim C.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine
is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So you
hit
a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in gear, who
is
at fault.

Bill, like I said before, you need to read the Collision Regulations before
you ask dumb questions like you are asking. All of the answers for your
questions can be found in the Collision Regulations. You, perhaps, should
take a Power Squadron course so that they can help you understand how to
read the regulations so that your questions don't even need to be asked.
Well, anyway Bill, read Rule 18 for the answer to your question. If you
don't understand rule 18, then perhaps you might give up boating and just
watch it on TV.

Jim C.

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Capt. JG wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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And your motor is not propelling machinery? I guess a power boat like
mine is not a power boat when the motor is turned off or not in gear. So
you hit a drift fishing "Power boat" who has his motor off or in not in
gear, who is at fault.

Are you really that stupid or are you just trolling?

"vessel propelled by machinery"

When your vessel's engine is off and/or you're not using it to move the
vessel and you're not at anchor or at the dock, you're considered to be a
vessel not under command.

Bill's boat should be considered "not under command" at all times.

However, I'm not sure turning off the engine of a powerboat, or
putting it in neutral, makes it a NUC. The rules are specific that
showing the appropriate signal is required, though you could claim
that an open engine hatch is a reasonable substitute for small boats.

However, the important aspect is that vessels don't acquire special
status "in secret;" their status must be apparent to all at a
distance. This is why, for instance, the categories of vessels are
not significant in restricted visibility.

The status of a vessel in neutral may have to be unraveled in an
Admiralty Court, but captains will be judged by how they reacted to
the information they had at hand. If it was determined that a
"sailboat" was actually a powerboat, Bill will not be absolved of his
responsibility to keep clear, though his liability might be reduced
somewhat.

Similarly, boaters should be aware of how they appear to others.
There is no way to tell if someone drift fishing has their engine
running, or is in gear, or is using a trolling motor, so they should
know that other boats will expect them to act as they appear, as
powerboats.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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And your motor is not propelling machinery?


No, Bill, a motor is not propelling machinery, nor is a propeller,
propelling machinery, but used together,
they become propelling machinery.
Just for kicks, let's get a bit more complicated.
The only way you can be certain (reasonably) under the Rules, that a sail
vessel is also being powered by some mechanical means
other than the sails, is, in daylight, a cone, apex down; at night, she's
lit as a power driven vessel; or radio communications.
Barring any of those (excluding some sailboat making 10k in a 1k breeze...
possible exceptions noted) you should consider the sailboat
just that ..... a sailboat, and I send you back to rule 2.

otn

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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So my "power boat" is not a power boat for rules when the motor is turned
off and I am drifting?

Technically correct, but, once again I send you to rule 2

otn

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"Jim Carter" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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So my "power boat" is not a power boat for rules when the motor is turned
off and I am drifting?

Bill, have you read the Collision Regulations and do you not understand
them? Have you read the correct terminology that is fully explained in
these regulations? If not, why don't you get a copy of them and read
them from cover to cover so that you are better informed before you write
such questions as you wrote above. Everything that you are asking is
fully
explained in the Collision Regulations. For example, your question that
you are now asking is explained in Rule 3 General Definitions (a)

Got that Bill?

Jim C.



Can you answer my question? Is a power boat a power boat with the engine
off or in neutral?

Got that Jim?

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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And your motor is not propelling machinery?


No, Bill, a motor is not propelling machinery, nor is a propeller,
propelling machinery, but used together,
they become propelling machinery.
Just for kicks, let's get a bit more complicated.
The only way you can be certain (reasonably) under the Rules, that a sail
vessel is also being powered by some mechanical means
other than the sails, is, in daylight, a cone, apex down; at night, she's
lit as a power driven vessel; or radio communications.
Barring any of those (excluding some sailboat making 10k in a 1k breeze...
possible exceptions noted) you should consider the sailboat
just that ..... a sailboat, and I send you back to rule 2.

otn


And a stupid guy who is motoring with his sails up is going to run day
signals or lights? LOL!

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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Can you answer my question? Is a power boat a power boat with the engine
off or in neutral?

Got that Jim?

How old are you Bill? Are you still in grade school? Do you have trouble
reading? Are you a little bit stupid?
Do you have a copy of the Collision Regulations in front of you so you can
actually read them? If you do, try this.
Go to the page where is shows "Rule 3". Then read section (a) Got
that Bill? Tell me what is written there. Then tell me if you
understand what that means. Now go to section (b), and tell me what you see
in this section. Do you understand what this means? Finally, go to
section (c) and read this. Understand what you have just read and can you
explain it to your simple brain? If not, then go take a safe boating
course, because, you need one.

Jim C.

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wrote ...
Everybody on the Internet is a member of Mensa.

I don't know about that - I'm not, didn't keep up the dues
because I
wasn't really getting
much out of it - didn't need to join another club and go to
meetings
and events because
my life is already pretty full with the day job, wife, kids,
working
weekends as a musician,
and boating. But I was a member for a year or two, just a few
years
back; I just took the entrance test
out of curiosity and pride (egotism I guess), was pretty sure
I'd get
in and I did. Then I found
out that I didn't even need to take the test, could have gotten
in just
by showing my SAT results,
also in the top 2% percentile of the population....not to brag
or
anything, but someone in the
post earlier questioned my intelligence, and believe me, it's
not in
question.


Dare I ask, then why do you own a PWC?

;)

SBV