I sent a little email to the Superior WI chamber of commerce looking for
Amsoil's refinery that seems to be just vaporware.

The nice lady sent me:

Good Afternoon,

The AMSOIL HQ (office Only)is locatd at 925 Tower Avenue. The
Plant/Warehouse is located at 2206 Winter Street. For further
information
you can contact them directly:

2206 Winter Street is a warehouse park. Dolly Madison has a warehouse
there, as does many other businesses, all in this strip warehouse facility.
One lady I called that has a warehouse to rent at 2206 says "Amsoil's on
the other end from us." The warehouse for rent is 22K sq ft, as are the
others....no room for a refinery.

I'm still looking.....(c; Now I'm curious where Amsoil makes soap powder
and health product, too! Google finds nothing....

--
Larry

what the hell is your point?

I have purchased product there. It's a big set of buildings, part
offices and some warehouses. It doesn't look like a refinery (no big
round things or smoke and flames) but is large. They are moving some of
their operations into another set of buildings this month.

They buy product from other refineries and blend it themselves; they do
not refine anything. I use it in all my marine engines except outboards.
Ask me in 10 years whether it was a good idea.

Capt. Jeff

Tamaroak wrote in news:l_ydnQ0a7oVEj9LeRVn-
:

They buy product from other refineries and blend it themselves; they do
not refine anything. I use it in all my marine engines except outboards.
Ask me in 10 years whether it was a good idea.

Capt. Jeff



My point precisely. "Blending" oil products, however, also takes a
cracking plant. I'm thinking more like "scamming" than blending....

It's a pyramid dealer scheme like Amway,

AMsoil - AMway.....coincidence??

--
Larry

Larry wrote:

Tamaroak wrote in news:l_ydnQ0a7oVEj9LeRVn-
:

They buy product from other refineries and blend it themselves; they do
not refine anything. I use it in all my marine engines except outboards.
Ask me in 10 years whether it was a good idea.

Capt. Jeff

My point precisely. "Blending" oil products, however, also takes a
cracking plant. I'm thinking more like "scamming" than blending....

It's a pyramid dealer scheme like Amway,

AMsoil - AMway.....coincidence??

Synthetic oil is not necessarily produced in a refinery - more like a
chemical plant.

Many oil companies do not refine their own oil. We've got several
distributors in this county, and they supply the service stations that
have different brand names, all from the same tanks.

Amsoil and Amway are both MLM organizations, but that doesn't mean
that the product is bad. We use Amsoil in all applications on both
the boat and all the cars (we have 20 cars, but only about 4 of them
are currently on the road). Bob has enough business that he can have
a dealership all by himself, what with the cars and the boats. He
doesn't need to recruit others - he just orders what he needs and they
deliver it to our door.

grandma Rosalie

In article ,
Rosalie B. wrote:

Synthetic oil is not necessarily produced in a refinery - more like a
chemical plant.

It would be nice if all you folks, would define for the rest of us, the
difference between a "Refinery" and a "Chemical Plant". This seems to
be the crux of the problem in this thread, definitions. Cripes, any
fool can gripe about this or that, but lets get the definitions straight
first so we all are talking from the same language.....

Me

Me wrote:

In article ,
Rosalie B. wrote:

Synthetic oil is not necessarily produced in a refinery - more like a
chemical plant.

It would be nice if all you folks, would define for the rest of us, the
difference between a "Refinery" and a "Chemical Plant". This seems to
be the crux of the problem in this thread, definitions. Cripes, any
fool can gripe about this or that, but lets get the definitions straight
first so we all are talking from the same language.....

Since we are talking about oil, we are talking about an oil refinery.
Basically a refinery makes something more pure (refines it). Refining
can be done with other substances like sugar for instance.

But here we mean an oil refinery which is a plant used to separate the
various components present in crude oil and convert them into usable
products. Crude oil is separated into fractions by fractional
distillation. The heaver fractions, that emerge from the bottom of the
fractionating column are often broken up (cracked) to make more useful
products.

Oil refineries can become very large and sprawling complexes with vast numbers of pipes running all throughout the facility. The refining process causes many different chemicals to be released into the atmosphere, so a (sometimes very intense) odor accompanies the presence of a refinery.

A chemical plant is any plant that does anything with chemicals -
extract, refine, condense, synthesize, decompose, combust, neutralize
etc. The OSHA definition in the flammable liquid standard is

"Chemical plant shall mean a large integrated plant or that portion of
such a plant other than a refinery or distillery where flammable or
combustible liquids are produced by chemical reactions or used in
chemical reactions."

Technically an oil refinery is a type of chemical plant (because
petroleum is a chemical), but a chemical plant is not always a
refinery.

The OSHA definition of a refinery is:

"... a plant in which flammable or combustible liquids are produced on
a commercial scale from crude petroleum, natural gasoline, or other
hydrocarbon sources."

Since these definitions are in the flammable liquid standard
(29CRF1910.106) they apply to the plants that produce flammable (or
combustible) liquids, and of course petroleum products are usually
either flammable or combustible. But an ordinary chemical plant
wouldn't have to produce a flammable liquid and not all flammable
liquids are petroleum based (for instance alcohols are not petroleum
based)..

Synthetic oils are produced either by a chemical reaction (synthesis),
severe refining or other complex chemical processes. Oil can be
produced by coal liquefaction or other processes.

HTH

grandma Rosalie

Larry wrote:
Tamaroak wrote in news:l_ydnQ0a7oVEj9LeRVn-
:


They buy product from other refineries and blend it themselves; they do
not refine anything. I use it in all my marine engines except outboards.
Ask me in 10 years whether it was a good idea.

Capt. Jeff




My point precisely. "Blending" oil products, however, also takes a
cracking plant. I'm thinking more like "scamming" than blending....

It's a pyramid dealer scheme like Amway,

AMsoil - AMway.....coincidence??

I thought Amsoil was a synthetic, not a refined petroleum product.
Synthetics can be manufactured in any lab environment. Large cracking
plants are not required.
krj

krj wrote in
:

I thought Amsoil was a synthetic, not a refined petroleum product.
Synthetics can be manufactured in any lab environment. Large cracking
plants are not required.
krj



What? You think they make it one quart at a time?

I doubt it....What's in Superior at the home office is a bottling plant out
behind Dolly Madison, or so the Dolly Madison people tell me. I'm just
trying to figure out what they're bottling that's so expensive....Mobile 1?

--
Larry

Larry wrote:

krj wrote in
:


I thought Amsoil was a synthetic, not a refined petroleum product.
Synthetics can be manufactured in any lab environment. Large cracking
plants are not required.
krj




What? You think they make it one quart at a time?

I doubt it....What's in Superior at the home office is a bottling plant out
behind Dolly Madison, or so the Dolly Madison people tell me. I'm just
trying to figure out what they're bottling that's so expensive....Mobile 1?

No, I don't think they make one quart at a time. Just said that they
don't need a refinery and cracking towers. Just a chemical plant.
krj