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Do you have any idea what heavy fuel oil is? If you ever have walked
down a beach and had tar stick to your feet then you have seen heavy fuel oil! It is completely accurate. When is the last time you worked on a ship? Anyone here that has will be laughing at you about now! You're so stupid you don't even know you're stupid. |
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One more thing, your always wondering if anyone knows this or that.
where is the part where you open up your thick skull and absorb some real knowledge. You know so000 little but assume everyone else in this newgroup is a moron. I am just tired of inferior asses like you. Next post from you will be something like "do you even know what a skull is??" You truly are a putz. |
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NO - The next post will be some links for you to try and learn from:
HEAVY FUEL OIL 101!~ http://www.nrtee-trnee.ca/eng/progra...vyFuel_2_E.htm http://www.steamesteem.com/index.html?boilers_fuel_oil http://www.steamesteem.com/index.html?fuels http://www.steamesteem.com/index.html?controls You NO NOTHING about these things and you should learn from those of us that are educated. You are willfully stupid and that is the worst thing anyone could be |
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"Do you have any idea what heavy fuel oil is?" What kind of moronic question is that? Yes I have walked down the beaches in Bermuda and had tar stick to my feet but if you think that is heavy fuel that is like comparing fresh coffee to the goop sitting in a coffee pot for a month. If you call that goop coffee than knock yourself out and drink it up. Learn some basic chemistry if you even know what chemistry is. "when was the last time you worked on a ship?" I am a retired engineer. I worked for a company that did contract work for the US Navy. I have been on PLENTY of ships in Norfolk. No of course I dont know what fuel oil is how could I??? I'm so stupid I dont even know what a ship is. You putz. You never did answer my question though and you wont. But I will ask it again. Do you really think the US Navy and the US military would use ships that require an entire 7 day period to get underway?? They would be sitting ducks. Yes I am so stupid I dont even know I am stupid, My wife tells me that every day but at least I dont prove it almost daily on this newsgroup as you do to my once amusement, and now aggravation. |
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What kind of moronic
question is that? One directed to a moron! Yes I have walked down the beaches in Bermuda and had tar stick to my feet but if you think that is heavy fuel that is like comparing fresh coffee to the goop sitting in a coffee pot for a month. Where do you think that "tar" comes from? Learn some basic chemistry if you even know what chemistry is. Look up my last name and then look back 1959 - 1969 Dow Chemical's top management. When you read through the Vice Presidents you might find something interesting. Then, come back to me with an off group email and I will send you a little information about few awards I achieved and where to confirm that information. Then you can eat my shorts. - You just stepped in a big pile! "when was the last time you worked on a ship?" I am a retired engineer. I worked for a company that did contract work for the US Navy. I have been on PLENTY of ships in Norfolk. No of course I dont know what fuel oil is how could I??? You don't know what it is and I don't believe you have had any time on a big ship, 9or at least anywhere near the fuel system. You seem to think it is the same thing as light diesel. It gets thick and that is why you need to steam it. Read all about it at the links I posted in the previous response. You really should make sure you feet are tied down next time you open you flapper. I'm so stupid I dont even know what a ship is. You're right about that! You never did answer my question though and you wont. But I will ask it again. Do you really think the US Navy and the US military would use ships that require an entire 7 day period to get underway?? They would be sitting ducks. BOZO- I was talking about a medical ship leaving Boston. You should learn to read! The ship uses HEAVY FUEL OIL and had been SHUT DOWN before its call! Yes I am so stupid I dont even know I am stupid, My wife tells me that every day but at least I dont prove it almost daily on this newsgroup as you do to my once amusement, and now aggravation. You're a loser caught in your own crap. It's hard to believe that anyone with your mentality could be married. I, by the way, don't make a habit of posting 4 times in a row. I would think that even you would be able to sum it up in at least 2 posts. Even better, you rant about the same things in the other posts. You claim the heavy fuel oil dose not need to be thinned? Try learning something before you try and teach it. Here are a few words from one of the links I posted - http://www.nrtee-trnee.ca/eng/progra...vyFuel_2_E.htm "HFO is a low-grade fuel primarily used in industrial boilers and other direct source heating applications (i.e., blast furnaces). It is also used as a principal fuel in marine applications in large diesel engines. Given its high boiling point and tar-like consistency, HFO typically requires heating before it can be moved through pipes or dispensed into a boiler or other heating vessel to be burned. HFO is the least expensive of the refined oil fuels and can only be used by facilities that have preheating capabilities. HFO is typically high in sulphur and other impurities that are released into the air when the fuel is burned. All you had to do was type in HFO or heavy fuel oil into google and you would never have made such an ass out of yourself! Some "engineer" you must have been. You are willfully stupid and arrogant to boot., You are the lowest form of life on this planet in my eyes and you are a laughable joke to anyone that knows what HFO is or what an engineer is supposed to know. If you were an engineer for anyone, I am sure you were fired in the first day of work. You also claimed that nearly all navy ships use turbine gas. Many navy ships are contracted from the merchant marines and are not Navy at all. They are whatever they are and some are even steam drive - yes you read that right. There is a ship that supplies basses in the Maldives area that runs off of steam. One of my best friends was a real engineer about a real boat there that runs off of steam. That was why he took the job, for the experience. But, then again, I don't recall saying anything about a Navy ship anyway. You just thought that ships run off of diesel since that is all you have seen in your little marina. |
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I am a retired engineer. Did contract work with the US Navy.Yeah I'm a
total moron. Yes I know what heavy fuel is. Yes Ive had tar stick to my feet at the beach in Bermuda. Heavy fuel oil is not tar. It can BECOME tar but if you think that crap your stepping in is the same as heavy fuel its like comparing fresh morning coffee to goo thats been sitting in a coffee pot for a month. You want to drink that **** and call it coffee? Help yourself. When was the last time YOU worked on a ship? Only one laughing is me at you. Speak for yourself not for others. When you cant stand on your own two feet and defend yourself and say "we" and "everyone" Its a true sign of a putz. you are an ass and a moron. You prove it quite frequently in this newsgroup. Again I ask you, do you really think the US military would use ships that take a whole week to get underway? That is moronic. They would be sitting ducks. You never answer any question I pose when I hard line you. Why cuz you dont know the answer your full of hot air and I call your bluff constantly. You have no foot to stand on . You 1 hit wonder. |
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Palmtree dreamer writes:
"I wonder if anyone knows that WHOLE WEEK to fire up the engines on a ship that uses heavy fuel oil! Fist you get the pony generator up, then you get the main generator up when the pony is warm enough, then you get the steam fired up that flows down the pipes and heats the heavy fuel oil. Finally, after about a week, the oil is thin enough to run through the pipes to get to the cylinders". "do you even know what fuel oil is?When is the last time you worked on a ship? Anyone here that has will be laughing at you about now! You're so stupid you don't even know you're stupid." Yes I am a retired engineer, that makes me stupid moron. my response: Nearly all navy surface combat ships use General Electric LM2500 gas turbine engines for main propulsion and the VAST majority of naval ships use similar gas turnbine engines The LM2 500 is based upon the CF6-6 engine (commercial version used on DC-10 aircraft) and the TF-39 engine (military version used on C-5 aircraft). Both the CF6-6 and TF-39 engines were developed in the 1960's. They dont run on coffee pot goop and they don't have pistons. What did you think Bush was going to send a world war two liberty ship? Hey what do I know, according to you I don't know what a putz is. You putz. |
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Palmtree dreamer writes: "I wonder if anyone knows that WHOLE WEEK to fire up the engines on a ship that uses heavy fuel oil! Fist you get the pony generator up, then you get the main generator up when the pony is warm enough, then you get the steam fired up that flows down the pipes and heats the heavy fuel oil. Finally, after about a week, the oil is thin enough to run through the pipes to get to the cylinders". ??? Not on any steam ship I've ever been on. The ships that still burn bunker oil (a minority, since the low price of it is more than offset by increased boiler maintenance) fire up a "donkey boiler" first to provide steam to heat the ready service tank (can take a few hours but always less than 6 AFAIK), then fire up the main boilers and bring them on line (can take an hour or two). Most steam ships burn a variant of higher grade fuel very similar to marine diesel. In fact, US Navy steam ships *do* burn marine diesel fuel. Meye5 wrote: Nearly all navy surface combat ships use General Electric LM2500 gas turbine engines for main propulsion and the VAST majority of naval ships use similar gas turnbine engines You know what? That doesn't include the MSC ships (pre-positioned supplies) nor the hospital ships, all of which have steam plants. In short, you're both stupid clowns who don't know half as much as you think you know. Good bye. Doug King, ex-BT1(SW) that means steam engineer |
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I wish you should read what I wrote before you include me with that
idiot. The reference was to a hospital boat that runs on HFO, had been shut down as a non-op, and in fact only had portside insurance on it. My statement was that the media was complaining that it took nearly a week to get it going. Anyone that knows ships knows that you have to first, get orders/charters/papers or whatever. Second, you need to get a crew. Lastly, you have to start it up and run the checklist before you set sail. A week is very fast to do all that, don't you think? Please don't say you disagree with that. |
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