"Rusty" wrote in
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Hydrocaps actually work. I check my batteries on a regular basis, but
hardly ever have to add any water. They should, however, be removed if
you're going to equalize the cells. The excess hydrogen causes them to
get hot.


Me either! Let's test it on your batteries. Put half the regular caps
back on half the cells and leave these wondrous gifts from God on the rest.
See if there's any difference in water usage.....It's a fair test.

--
Larry

Larry wrote:
"Rusty" wrote in
:


Hydrocaps actually work. I check my batteries on a regular basis, but
hardly ever have to add any water. They should, however, be removed if
you're going to equalize the cells. The excess hydrogen causes them to
get hot.



Me either! Let's test it on your batteries. Put half the regular caps
back on half the cells and leave these wondrous gifts from God on the rest.
See if there's any difference in water usage.....It's a fair test.


Geez larry, what's the problem? Got issues with technology or something?

I've used hydrocaps for 2 years. Prior to that, I checked the batteries
weekly and topped them up about once a month. I was and am very careful,
maintaining proper float and bulk charge voltages at all times.

Hydrocaps reduced my need to top up to about once every 6 months or so,
and much less water needed. It can be difficult to find distilled water
in some (more remote) places, so the added advantage of not having to
carry distilled water is also attractive.

And YES, when equalizing they come off, and I top up the cells
afterwards too. I equlaize about every 5 or 6 months when it dawns on
me. I probably should do it more often.

Doin it right wrote in
:

Hydrocaps reduced my need to top up to about once every 6 months or so,
and much less water needed. It can be difficult to find distilled water
in some (more remote) places, so the added advantage of not having to
carry distilled water is also attractive.



If your battery banks are using water, you need to check your fully-charged
float voltage, not the battery vent caps. Back off .2V on your float
charger's top end setting and they'll stop overcharging. You shouldn't
have to top off the batteries more than once a year if the setting is
correct.

Everyone should be carrying distilled water....for drinking as well as
batteries....You'll live longer.

--
Larry

Fk me crookid. I get T-105's for $60, maybe some pay $75. It is worth
it to spend more than a third more battery capacity or budget on
freaking caps, even if they happen to work perfectly (not according to
their own info), to avoid a few breif insepctions, top-ups & maybe
avoid carefully adjusting charging rate?

What is the life-cycle cost of your batteries?

For the cost of caps for only 2 banks, you can buy another whole new
bank that has 3x the stated service life of the caps.

If one did this sort of thing a few times with a vessel they were
tasked to responsibly manage for another owner, they'd be fired.

In article .com,
wrote:

Fk me crookid. I get T-105's for $60, maybe some pay $75. It is worth
it to spend more than a third more battery capacity or budget on
freaking caps, even if they happen to work perfectly (not according to
their own info), to avoid a few breif insepctions, top-ups & maybe
avoid carefully adjusting charging rate?

What is the life-cycle cost of your batteries?

For the cost of caps for only 2 banks, you can buy another whole new
bank that has 3x the stated service life of the caps.

If one did this sort of thing a few times with a vessel they were
tasked to responsibly manage for another owner, they'd be fired.

all this would be true, EXCEPT the HydroCaps aren't a "Wear item",
and once you buy a set they don't need to be replaced.

Me

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 18:40:20 GMT, Me wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:

Fk me crookid. I get T-105's for $60, maybe some pay $75. It is worth
it to spend more than a third more battery capacity or budget on
freaking caps, even if they happen to work perfectly (not according to
their own info), to avoid a few breif insepctions, top-ups & maybe
avoid carefully adjusting charging rate?

What is the life-cycle cost of your batteries?

For the cost of caps for only 2 banks, you can buy another whole new
bank that has 3x the stated service life of the caps.

If one did this sort of thing a few times with a vessel they were
tasked to responsibly manage for another owner, they'd be fired.

all this would be true, EXCEPT the HydroCaps aren't a "Wear item",
and once you buy a set they don't need to be replaced.

Actually they do eventually wear out. But if taken care of
(don't leave them on during equalizing charges!) they can last
through multiple battery sets.

--
BRENT - The Usenet typo king.

(Brent Geery) wrote in
:

Actually they do eventually wear out. But if taken care of
(don't leave them on during equalizing charges!) they can last
through multiple battery sets.



2-8 years....How many battery sets do you go through?!

--
Larry

Me wrote:

all this would be true, EXCEPT the HydroCaps aren't a "Wear item",
and once you buy a set they don't need to be replaced.

The product's own information disagrees with you.

wrote in
oups.com:

k me crookid. I get T-105's for $60, maybe some pay $75. It is worth
it to spend more than a third more battery capacity or budget on
freaking caps, even if they happen to work perfectly (not according to
their own info), to avoid a few breif insepctions, top-ups & maybe
avoid carefully adjusting charging rate?


I found more interesting information. It seems that when you need the caps
the MOST, you're supposed to remove them to save them??!!

From website:
http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/t...awlering/2004-
June/076584.html

"Thanks for the Battery Equalization & Hydrocaps post
of Wed, 2 Jun 2004

I was interested so I did some Internet research on
hydrocaps. All of the venders for Hydrocaps
(Hydro-Caps)that I found recommend that the caps be
removed during high levels of charging and battery
equalizing. High levels of charging/battery gassing
will result in the catylator in the cap being damaged
or prematurely worn out.

Limited use -- If I was recharging my golf cart
battery bank at 100+ amps, I would have to remove the
hydrocaps to prevent damaging them.

Since, the caps are designed for low charging rates,
wouldn't this severely limit their use."

I guess if you START THE 100A ALTERNATOR ON THE DIESEL on a dead house
battery, you may RUIN them?....WTF???

--
Larry

In article , Larry
wrote:

Me either! Let's test it on your batteries. Put half the regular caps
back on half the cells and leave these wondrous gifts from God on the rest.
See if there's any difference in water usage.....It's a fair test.

--
Larry

Been there, done that... HydroCaps do work as advertised. The cataylst
is a small platinum foil plate, that causes the Hydrogen and Oxygen to
recombine and fall back into the Battery Cell. Used my 800 Amp/Hr
24Vdc Bank of L16's to run the test. Two strings of 4, in parallel, one
sting with regular caps and one string with HydroCaps. Watered the
Banks on about a 4 to one basis over a year. Banks cycled down to 80%
capacity, on a twice a day (24Hrs) Basis, with my Trace 4024 doing the
charging and being the load. After the end of a year, I bought another
16 Hydrocaps, and that bank lasted 10 years and still had 75% capacity
when they were replaced. Never had as good of service since.


Bruce in alaska
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