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4-stroke Wrap-Up
Since I received some nice replies about my 4-stroke starting problem, I feel people
should know what the outcome was. I was fortunate to find an excellent mechanic just one block from where my boat was tied up. He encouraged me to remove the carburetor and bring it to him. I was nervous about doing it by leaning out over the water, but it all went smoothly, except I had to improvise tools, because there was a need to use open ended wrenches, which I didn't have, and used a combination of other tools instead. I ran the carburetor over to the mechanic, who saw ominous signs of residual fuel at the bottom of the float chamber. These were cleaned with solvent and a high pressure air hose. Next came the two jets, low and high speed. They were completely opaque, which he fixed by poking an appropriate wire through them to open them up. The low speed was so fine that he had to improvise by taking a strand of wire from some multi-strand electrical wire. He showed me where the drain screw location and advised me to open it up for draining, whenever I planned to not be using the engine. He thought that even letting it sit there for more than a week could cause problems. On the Yamaha 9.9, the screw is easily accessible, after opening the cover, so I will take the extra minute or so, to empty the float chambers whenever I think I'll be away from the boat for an extended period. He mentioned the low speed jet being extremely fine to give good fuel economy, but leaving it open to clogging problems. In my case, the wider high speed jet was also clogged, but I think this happens less often that the low speed jet. He wasn't big on fogging carburetors, or on products like Stabil. He seemed to feel they get into the float chambers but not necessarily the jets. Some genius will come up with a cure for this problem. He just returned from one weeks vacation and had 5 outboards waiting for him with carburetor problems (not sure if they were all 4-stroke). This seems to be one of those problems the manufacturers don't want to address. The Yamaha manual does not even list this kind of problem for engines that won't start, but only lists clogged carburetor for bad engine idling. Of course, their cure for this is taking the engine to a Yamaha dealer for service. In any case, I got the carburetor back on the engine and for now, it's running fine. Bottom line, running the gas out of the engine and fogging it does not guarantee that you won't have problems at some future time. Draining the carburetor might help. Sherwin D. |
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sherwindu wrote in
: Bottom line, running the gas out of the engine and fogging it does not guarantee that you won't have problems at some future time. Draining the carburetor might help. I love it when I'm right...(c; That nasty old 2-stroke oil everyone hates to premix would have prevented the gas evaporating turning to HARD SHELLAC. What would have been left behind was 2-stroke oil, that greasy, messy, protective coating every 2- stroke owner has all over himself that coats all the carb parts. Greasy 2-stroke jets open up when fresh gas melts the grease back into the gas solvent....(c; Ah, the smell of burning motor oil wafting up over the transom from the Evinrude Sportwin 7.5s blue cowling as the little boy (me) proudly pilots the old rowboat towards my grandfather's secret fishing hole at 5AM before the neighbors see us. Thanks for those memories, Quaker State...SAE 30...16:1....don't forget to pump the primer on the tank, stupid, or she won't start! (Been there, done that, got the T-shirt....dammit) -- Larry |
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Sherwin,
I ran the carburetor over to the mechanic, who saw ominous signs of residual fuel at the bottom of the float chamber. These were cleaned with solvent and a high pressure air hose. Next came the two jets, low and high speed. They were completely opaque, which he fixed by poking an appropriate wire through them to open them up. The low speed was so fine that he had to improvise by taking a strand of wire from some multi-strand electrical wire. He showed me where the drain screw location and advised me to open it up for draining, Glad it worked out for you. That is precisely the problem I expected you to find. Oh yeah, good point about the fuel drain screw on the side of the carb. Forgot to mention that. I went through an identical scenario on my Yamaha 9.9 4-stroke when I started it for the first time this season, except that I disassembled the carb on my kitchen island (over a bunch of newspaper of course). After judicious cleaning with q-tips and lacquer thinner, and improvising different sized wires to clean the jets, I used compressed air to blow everything dry and then re-assembled with the original gaskets. Its running like a champ now Don W. |
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Don W wrote in
m: Glad it worked out for you. That is precisely the problem I expected you to find. Oh yeah, good point about the fuel drain screw on the side of the carb. Forgot to mention that. I wanna be there to see what the greenie neighbors scream at him when he opens the drain screw over the stern....(c; -- Larry |
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