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Peter Wiley July 1st 05 10:41 AM

In article , Vito
wrote:

"Steven Shelikoff" wrote
So I'd like to know if the person who made the implication above can
actually back it up with a case. Either way, (they have hung a US
citizen for possession of a firearm or ammunition or they never have
done such a thing) it's good information to know.


Why? I wouldn't take a gun or ammo there because I wouldn't want to be the
first - or even put up with the hassle. I'll just stay away (no problem for
me) or, if I had to go there I simply give the gun/ammo to Davy Jones before
entering their territory. A decent pump shotgun and a box of ammo are not
expensive enough to risk jail let alone death and I wouldn't expose an
expensive gun to the sea anyway. BTW I habitually carry at home (USA).


You really aren't thinking this through. Singapore doesn't really care
if you have a firearm aboard. They're not going to hang you for that,
or arrest you, or fine you.

They only care if you have a firearm aboard AND DON'T DECLARE IT TO
CUSTOMS. Understand the difference? You clear in, declare it, they take
it away while you're in port, you clear out, they return it & off you
go. I really can't see what the big deal is. It's not like you need a
gun there, Singapore is a lot safer than the USA.

I just don't understand why you guys seem to have such a conceptual
difficulty with filling in a Customs declaration form accurately. Do
you ever go *anywhere* outside of the USA?

Try bringing certain prescription drugs into the USA sometimes even
with a prescription from an overseas medical practitioner. Don't ever
try doing it without a script. Also, AFAIK, the USA is the only country
on the planet which asserts the right to confiscate foreign vessels in
transit if they suspect the vessel will visit Cuba. You guys have this
**** and you're worried about the consequences of failing to fill out a
Customs form accurately? Get a grip.

Now Indonesia - if you declare a gun & they take it away, it might get
'lost' and you'll never see it again. BFD. If you *don't* declare it
and dump it over the side instead, as suggested above, guess what?
You've converted the *possible* loss of a firearm into the *certain*
loss of it. How bright is that?

PDW

Vito July 1st 05 02:33 PM

"Brian Whatcott" wrote
Peter Wiley wrote:
They only care if you have a firearm aboard AND DON'T DECLARE IT TO
CUSTOMS.


Fun post! It's at this point that the die-hards start laying plans for
a 5 ft PVC sewer section with an o-ring screw on end cap, and
judicious weighting, to drape in the water with their precious stuff.


Naw, peter's right - I didn't know you could leave your guns/ammo with
customs while there.



Me July 2nd 05 12:10 AM

In article ,
"Vito" wrote:

"Brian Whatcott" wrote
Peter Wiley wrote:
They only care if you have a firearm aboard AND DON'T DECLARE IT TO
CUSTOMS.


Fun post! It's at this point that the die-hards start laying plans for
a 5 ft PVC sewer section with an o-ring screw on end cap, and
judicious weighting, to drape in the water with their precious stuff.


Naw, peter's right - I didn't know you could leave your guns/ammo with
customs while there.



or just have it In a Bondable Customs Locker......

Me


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