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Red Cloud® wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2005 18:56:43 -0700, "JG" wrote: We all are. g It's obvious that isn't true. rusty redcloud How do you know? Mine is gone a lot. JR |
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I never liked them 'flatable thangs, made mine outa marine ply so they
fit together INSIDE each other 'n fit on the foredeck. Rows well too, I b'leve in spartan sailin, none o that fancy stuff although I do love my new(er) diesel. It beats the hell outa camping in a tent which iz what Id be doin if I didnt sail. |
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Last summer I had the odd experience of having a crew member "jump ship"
after sleeping on the mooring preparatory to an early morning start. He just said, "I have to go" leaving myself and my 12 year old daughter on board. I had a "serious" talk with her, along the line of "If we go, you have to really help work the boat, not just be a passenger" I told her we could change our plans, keep closer to home, etc., etc. If we went she had to do *exactly* as I said, ask why later Up till now I have let her participate as she wishes, which varies from day to day. As we went down river and different situations came up, I illustrated some of my criteria, such as, "If I am resting and you see a boat get this close, wake me ASAP", "if the autopilot does this, do that, or call me, etc. etc." I would not have traded the ensuing trip for anything, she really reached down inside and found what I hope is her responsible future self, and brought her out for the next three days. You are making a bigger passage than we did, but I would still urge you to give yourself and your son the chance to stretch the limits a bit, if you are reasonably sure you can mostly carry the load yourself if need be. You will probably be pleasantly surprised, I know I was. Worth every stressfull minute on my part. Jonathan wrote: After my aborted cruise, I want to bring my boat back from Sarasota to Shell Point in N. Florida (Just south of Tallahassee) for hurricane season. It is 185 miles straight across the northern Gulf of Mexico and I estimate this is about 36-48 hours sail. My only crewmember currently is my 14 yr old son who isnt really qualified to do a watch. I do not want to do the several days coast hopping route as I have done that too many times and just want to get her home (a 28' S2). So, I am wondering if I should venture to do it with just my son or if I really need another crew member. Strange but I no longer know many qualified sailors, most I know are beginners who would just get in their own way. "Ragtime" is a 1981 8.5 M S2 with new standing rigging, running rigging, sails etc, Epirb, etc so is probably well equipped. What do Y'all think? |
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We all are. g
HEY!! I'm not. I'm married to one of those taciturn type men who wants me to be in the cockpit but not talk. ----- JR Gilbreath wrote: wrote: Having lost objects overboard in waves, I know how easy it is to really lose track of them, really scary. SO, we wear harnesses and tie them to eyes in the cockpit. Still, if I fell overboard even wearing the harness, he would have a very difficult time of it. So practice this. It is one of the skills one should know anyway. I love my wife but have learned I cannot sail with her. It is worse than being single handed. Imagine being single handed while constantly tending apparent disasters and being subjected to constant jabbering. When I sail with her, I feel so stressed out I cannot handle it. MY GOD! We are married to the same woman! I suspect that part of this is lack of knowledge and a feeling of being out of control. IMHO it would help your wives to take a sailing course without you. That's what I did on the recommendation of my sister. Not one of those women's courses, although I guess those can be good too. Not that I don't think my husband would be a bad instructor, but it was reassuring that he was telling me the same thing as an unrelated other person was telling me. Just be sure that whatever course it is makes each student perform all the maneuvers, and not get out of it by playing helpless or scared or whatever. grandma Rosalie |
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"Falky foo" wrote in
: cammon.. when I first got my 25-footer I sailed her from LA to San Diego, 110 miles, in 9-12 foot swells and wind whipping from 0 to 25 mph and back to 0 in an instant, at night, with lightning cracking above my head and rain pouring down so hard I had to sit in the cabin with my compass holding the boat on course with a rope tied to the tiller, and there was nobody but myself on the boat. And that was the first time I'd ever sailed in my entire life. I didn't even know how to hoist a mainsail until I set out that day. Just do it yaself and bring lots of caffeine tablets. See? Real stupid answers......like I said. |
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Red Cloud,
Well at least you know that if YOU go pear shaped she'll still be around. :-) Paul Red Cloud® wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2005 23:13:40 -0400, JR Gilbreath wrote: Red Cloud® wrote: On Fri, 13 May 2005 18:56:43 -0700, "JG" wrote: We all are. g It's obvious that isn't true. rusty redcloud How do you know? Mine is gone a lot. JR My wife loves to sail, and is a good sport even when things go pear shaped. She believes that the only difference between an ordeal and an adventure is attitude. Come to think of it, that's probably how she is able to tolerate ME! rusty redcloud |
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 14:00:08 GMT, Rosalie B. wrote:
We all are. g HEY!! I'm not. I'm married to one of those taciturn type men who wants me to be in the cockpit but not talk. ----- JR Gilbreath wrote: wrote: Having lost objects overboard in waves, I know how easy it is to really lose track of them, really scary. SO, we wear harnesses and tie them to eyes in the cockpit. Still, if I fell overboard even wearing the harness, he would have a very difficult time of it. So practice this. It is one of the skills one should know anyway. I love my wife but have learned I cannot sail with her. It is worse than being single handed. Imagine being single handed while constantly tending apparent disasters and being subjected to constant jabbering. When I sail with her, I feel so stressed out I cannot handle it. MY GOD! We are married to the same woman! I suspect that part of this is lack of knowledge and a feeling of being out of control. IMHO it would help your wives to take a sailing course without you. That's what I did on the recommendation of my sister. Not one of those women's courses, although I guess those can be good too. Not that I don't think my husband would be a bad instructor, but it was reassuring that he was telling me the same thing as an unrelated other person was telling me. Just be sure that whatever course it is makes each student perform all the maneuvers, and not get out of it by playing helpless or scared or whatever. grandma Rosalie I agree Rosalie...how the data is presented, and who presents it can make all the difference in the world. I was with a sailing class whose crew consisted, in part, of a younger woman and her older husband. The woman had never been even close to the water before, and the first time the boat heeled, she nearly came unglued. Her husband would roll his eyes and make snide/irritable remarks every time she make a mistake however small, even though he knew squat about boats too.. The second morning the instructor left me on the helm, plus a 14 year old young man to handle the sheets, and the woman on deck, while he took the other two students (including the husband) below to play with the radar and GPS. I put the woman on the wheel, stood close behind her, and talked softly almost in her ear. I explained what we were going to do, what the boat would feel like, etc, and led her through several tacks with a very quiet running commentary. If it went pear shaped, I'd explain what happened and why it did, with no hint of disapproval...then we'd try it again. After awhile she relaxed and got a feel for the boat. By the end of the week, she was doing MOB and other maneuvers, including docking, with a good degree of competence considering her experience level. All it took was quiet encouragement to get her started. The husband? He never did catch on to sailing (LOL...and I didn't expect a Christmas card from him) ....she was by far the better sailor than he at the end of the week. The instructor later confessed he knew early on that unless he separated the man and his wife, she would have an absolutly miserable week, and learn zip. My two cents worth. Norm B |
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no you are!!!
See? Real stupid answers......like I said. |
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