Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons? I
read about a recent problem in the Red Sea and I wonder what the heck anyone
is doing there. It would seem better to spend time in a nice place rather
then some hell hole where everyone it considering killing you for your boat.
I know that if I had a shotgun or a machine gun I would not bring my wife
and children into that kind of situation. As a single man I have spent time
in many of the really bad parts of the world and had a good time but I would
never do it with my kids. What would be so wrong if you really wanted to
cruise the Phillipines to just hire a couple of armed guards. The same
would probably be possible in Thailand.
"rhys" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:07:56 -0500, Mike G
wrote:


IF you are not sure of a situation keep the firearm close at hand and
out of sight and don't go waving it around like it's a magic wand. Keep
it as your "ace in the hole".

If you don't think you can do that don't waste money on a firearm. It'll
only get you into more trouble then you would have been in without it.

Whatever one's stance on guns in yachts this is very, very good
advice. I haven't made up my mind yet, and I would have to train and
get dozens of permits, etc., but I do agree that if you bring it out,
don't stop shooting until everyone's dead or down.

Of course, if you're wrong and you've killed the crew of a harmless
bumboat, you'll rot in a tropical prison or make the Al-Jazeera
"Beheading of the Day", but that's the chance you take.

R.

Sailct41 wrote:
Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons?
end_of_thread
DING! we have a winner folks
/end_of_thread

Ok, is anyone else here experiencing deja vu? I keep seeing posts at least a
couple of times on successive visits. I know I read this one earlier, so it
was marked read and I shouldn't have seen it again, but here it is again,
new (for me). This is happening with other posts in the forum.

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in five
minutes!

--


Keith
__
Money can't buy you happiness, but it does bring you a more pleasant form of
misery. -Spike Milligan
"prodigal1" wrote in message
...
Sailct41 wrote:
Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons?
end_of_thread
DING! we have a winner folks
/end_of_thread

"Keith" wrote in
:

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in five
minutes!



Not on Usenetserver's system. No dupes, here.

Larry W4CSC wrote in
:

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in
five minutes!



Not on Usenetserver's system. No dupes, here.


Belay my last......the posts on tons of newsgroups started repeating on
Usenetserver today...dammit.

Larry W4CSC wrote:
Larry W4CSC wrote in
:


Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in
five minutes!


Not on Usenetserver's system. No dupes, here.



Belay my last......the posts on tons of newsgroups started repeating on
Usenetserver today...dammit.


I have seen such happen often, suspect newsreader threading errors here.

Have seen errors where some posts are repaeted many times.

what software you using?

Terry K

Terry Spragg wrote in
:

I have seen such happen often, suspect newsreader threading errors here.

Have seen errors where some posts are repaeted many times.

what software you using?

Terry K



It stopped, so far, today. I wasn't online much as I was working on a
Yamaha 40hp outboard for a friend who was in a panic with guests arriving
from Seattle. Damned Yamaha uses stiff wire wound around a pencil then
points the tip and just shoves it up into the ignition wire to make contact
with the spark plugs so they don't have to buy a proper spark plug socket.
All three were shoved up into the cap, but only one was shoved clear out of
touching the plug. Yamacrap.

Oh, sorry, off subject abuse...(c;

I'm using Xnews (xnews.newsguy.com) because it will download and decode ANY
kind of binary posts in a selected que and store it while I'm away or
asleep. I got 12 movies while I was fooling with the Yamacrap today!...(c;

I used to use Free Agent for text groups, but it crashed Win98SE so often I
gave up. Xnews NEVER crashes the computer....UNLESS I select over 190,000
messages in the massive binary newsgroups, when it simply overruns
Win98SE's miserable 128MB of memory limit...(c;

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Ok, is anyone else here experiencing deja vu? I keep seeing posts at least
a couple of times on successive visits. I know I read this one earlier, so
it was marked read and I shouldn't have seen it again, but here it is
again, new (for me). This is happening with other posts in the forum.

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in five
minutes!

--


Keith
__
snipped

it's happening alright.
hoges in wa

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:14:19 UTC, prodigal1 wrote:

Sailct41 wrote:
Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons?
end_of_thread
DING! we have a winner folks
/end_of_thread

Well, if like me you LIVE in Indonesia, you don't have much choice.
Then again, barring the Malacca Straits and Aceh area where the piracy
may be seen as 'taxation by the alternative government' (the GAM
rebels), Indonesia is a generally peaceful and safe place....

Another reason you might choose to cruise such areas is that you don't
like giving in to thugs .

Chris
--

A very sensible question...

As far as people cruising by Yemen, I believe it is so they can enter Med
via the Suez canal and avoid a long an potentially hazardous rounding of the Horn.

Another fairly unavoidable trouble spot as I understand it is the straits of Malacca
through Indonesia. These only apply to circumnavigators of course.

Don W.

Sailct41 wrote:

Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons? I
read about a recent problem in the Red Sea and I wonder what the heck anyone
is doing there. It would seem better to spend time in a nice place rather
then some hell hole where everyone it considering killing you for your boat.
I know that if I had a shotgun or a machine gun I would not bring my wife
and children into that kind of situation. As a single man I have spent time
in many of the really bad parts of the world and had a good time but I would
never do it with my kids. What would be so wrong if you really wanted to
cruise the Phillipines to just hire a couple of armed guards. The same
would probably be possible in Thailand.
"rhys" wrote in message
news
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 11:07:56 -0500, Mike G
wrote:


IF you are not sure of a situation keep the firearm close at hand and
out of sight and don't go waving it around like it's a magic wand. Keep
it as your "ace in the hole".

If you don't think you can do that don't waste money on a firearm. It'll
only get you into more trouble then you would have been in without it.

Whatever one's stance on guns in yachts this is very, very good
advice. I haven't made up my mind yet, and I would have to train and
get dozens of permits, etc., but I do agree that if you bring it out,
don't stop shooting until everyone's dead or down.

Of course, if you're wrong and you've killed the crew of a harmless
bumboat, you'll rot in a tropical prison or make the Al-Jazeera
"Beheading of the Day", but that's the chance you take.

R.