On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 15:38:02 GMT, Don W
wrote:


Quick summary for latecomers: Having a gun aboard will be quite a hassle
at check-in in many countries you visit. Not declaring it can get you
arrested and your boat confiscated, along with lengthy stays in a
third-world prison. If you declare, many places will sieze your weapon and
hold it for you until you are ready to check out, and it may disappear
during the holding process. In any case it will mean that you have to
come back to the check-in city before departing, and that may be quite
an inconvenience depending on your plans.

I fully understand this. That's part of why it's a hard decision, but
that decision is determined on the intelligence and local, evolving
situations a foreign yachtie is able to gather about parts of the
world one wishes to sail but where the government and the governed are
perhaps some distance apart...or where the government doesn't much
care if yachts are pillaged and foreigners fed to the sharks.

As far as the Yemen incident in recent threads, I don't think that your "beer
can" flamethrower would have been much help. Also, the cruiser involved
was fairly lucky in his engagement of multiple AK-47s vs his shotgun.

Very much so. One of the arguments for steel boats that isn't often
touched upon. Or kevlar, perhaps G.

The question of defensive weapons for yachts is very complicated and
the answer is likely to be highly personal and depend on a lot of
things (such as where you are going to cruise).

Very true. I see nothing with which to argue here. Perhaps the
seemingly exotic "suppression" weapons (super-loud sound, tasers,
"pain rays") will prove in time to be a better choice than blasting
skinny hoodlums with shot. I think, however, the best idea is to
dissuade them from ever getting within whatever range some miserable
thug possesses. That could mean "you're on Candid Piracy Camera!"
and/or travelling in convoy, and/or announcing on Ch. 16 in the local
tongue that you will defend your home by all means at your disposal.

Could get interesting. Or you could simply never sail near the
innumerable ********s of the world where yacht custom is not
appreciated.

R.

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:43:50 -0700, "Sailct41"
wrote:

Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons?

You wouldn't, but see below.

I
read about a recent problem in the Red Sea and I wonder what the heck anyone
is doing there.


If you don't want to spend many weeks going halfway to Antarctica to
get into the Indian Ocean, or if you are in the Indian Ocean and don't
want to cruise the Med via Gibraltar several months late, the Red Sea
and the Suez are a logical shortcut if you don't care to cope with the
Roaring Forties. There's only so many ways to circumnavigate without
putting the boat on a tractor trailer (not that there's highways in
many otherwise colourful destinations), and the Red Sea transit, while
a difficult sail due to nav. hazards and frequently contrary winds, is
a fraction of doing what the Portuguese galleons did in the 1500s.

R.

Ok, is anyone else here experiencing deja vu? I keep seeing posts at least a
couple of times on successive visits. I know I read this one earlier, so it
was marked read and I shouldn't have seen it again, but here it is again,
new (for me). This is happening with other posts in the forum.

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in five
minutes!

--


Keith
__
Money can't buy you happiness, but it does bring you a more pleasant form of
misery. -Spike Milligan
"prodigal1" wrote in message
...
Sailct41 wrote:
Just a question from a novice cruiser but experienced ex-navy world
traveler, why would you want to cruise in areas where you need weapons?
end_of_thread
DING! we have a winner folks
/end_of_thread

"Keith" wrote in
:

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in five
minutes!



Not on Usenetserver's system. No dupes, here.

"Keith" wrote in message
...
Ok, is anyone else here experiencing deja vu? I keep seeing posts at least
a couple of times on successive visits. I know I read this one earlier, so
it was marked read and I shouldn't have seen it again, but here it is
again, new (for me). This is happening with other posts in the forum.

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in five
minutes!

--


Keith
__
snipped

it's happening alright.
hoges in wa

Larry W4CSC wrote in
:

Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in
five minutes!



Not on Usenetserver's system. No dupes, here.


Belay my last......the posts on tons of newsgroups started repeating on
Usenetserver today...dammit.

Larry W4CSC wrote:
Larry W4CSC wrote in
:


Anyone else seeing this, or is it just me? going crazy, be back in
five minutes!


Not on Usenetserver's system. No dupes, here.



Belay my last......the posts on tons of newsgroups started repeating on
Usenetserver today...dammit.


I have seen such happen often, suspect newsreader threading errors here.

Have seen errors where some posts are repaeted many times.

what software you using?

Terry K

Terry Spragg wrote in
:

I have seen such happen often, suspect newsreader threading errors here.

Have seen errors where some posts are repaeted many times.

what software you using?

Terry K



It stopped, so far, today. I wasn't online much as I was working on a
Yamaha 40hp outboard for a friend who was in a panic with guests arriving
from Seattle. Damned Yamaha uses stiff wire wound around a pencil then
points the tip and just shoves it up into the ignition wire to make contact
with the spark plugs so they don't have to buy a proper spark plug socket.
All three were shoved up into the cap, but only one was shoved clear out of
touching the plug. Yamacrap.

Oh, sorry, off subject abuse...(c;

I'm using Xnews (xnews.newsguy.com) because it will download and decode ANY
kind of binary posts in a selected que and store it while I'm away or
asleep. I got 12 movies while I was fooling with the Yamacrap today!...(c;

I used to use Free Agent for text groups, but it crashed Win98SE so often I
gave up. Xnews NEVER crashes the computer....UNLESS I select over 190,000
messages in the massive binary newsgroups, when it simply overruns
Win98SE's miserable 128MB of memory limit...(c;

Jim Richardson wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:17:14 -0500,
prodigal1 wrote:

Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the real
world.

/not_proven



??

Sept 11, 2001 ring a bell?


Does "The Mafia wanted to implode the towers, and rigged them with
explosives 5 years ago when the 'frame strengthening' upgrade for
'earthquake protection' was done" ring a bell?

Jimmie Hoffa was never solved. The towers will never be solved.
Some think The gov was involved, like with JFK.

It is NOT proved that Arabs did it. The best lies are the biggest
ones, the best conspiracies are the largest and most involved. The
smartest deadbeat dads dissapear to Rhum City, Elseplace, Beachdom.

We do know that the Texan oil men have made a lot of money
engineering price rises independant of cost increases. Why not
build more refineries? It is likely all "free market" manipulation.
Billionaires have the best advice available, and no need for scruples.

"Intelligence" mopes will allways be made to carry the bag,
stupidly. Fire a few spies, toast a few scapegoats, problem goes away.

The public forgets, right?

Do you think it will make any difference who you vote for, next time?

The gov is supposed to protect you from big business, not protect
big bomb builders from common sense arms reductions.

Terry K

This is of topic for rec.boats.cruising.
Please take it to alt.conspiracy.gov etc.

Thanks

Don W.

Terry Spragg wrote:
Jim Richardson wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:17:14 -0500,
prodigal1 wrote:

Mike G wrote:

not_proven

Hell, even a few box cutters can bring down tall buildings in the
real world.


/not_proven




??

Sept 11, 2001 ring a bell?


Does "The Mafia wanted to implode the towers, and rigged them with
explosives 5 years ago when the 'frame strengthening' upgrade for
'earthquake protection' was done" ring a bell?

Jimmie Hoffa was never solved. The towers will never be solved. Some
think The gov was involved, like with JFK.

It is NOT proved that Arabs did it. The best lies are the biggest ones,
the best conspiracies are the largest and most involved. The smartest
deadbeat dads dissapear to Rhum City, Elseplace, Beachdom.

We do know that the Texan oil men have made a lot of money engineering
price rises independant of cost increases. Why not build more
refineries? It is likely all "free market" manipulation. Billionaires
have the best advice available, and no need for scruples.

"Intelligence" mopes will allways be made to carry the bag, stupidly.
Fire a few spies, toast a few scapegoats, problem goes away.

The public forgets, right?

Do you think it will make any difference who you vote for, next time?

The gov is supposed to protect you from big business, not protect big
bomb builders from common sense arms reductions.

Terry K