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Len March 25th 05 08:20 PM

Mike G wrote:

In article 1111736083.af4857891b0ce7311315567dd6261fe2@teran ews,
says...
So when say two robbers, with a grown knife between their teeth, row
to your boat, you'd just shoot them by surprise instead of giving them
other thoughts by letting them take a look at your 12 ga.?
The term "warning shot" isn't in your vocabulary?



You've either have to be kidding or have watched way too much Mr.
Roger's neighborhood.

Along with the knife in the teeth maybe they will have a hook for a left
hand.

Does the term "AK47" ring any bells?


Mike,

Take a look at the message I responded to. I just tried to picture a
hypothetical situation for sake of argument. I see no need to
ridiculize it, perhaps you could try to add something of value to the
discussion...

But I must say this thread is getting more and more informative... LOL

To me it looks like _some_ of the posters in favor of having a weapon
on board are incapable of proper reading, lack _any_ sensible empathy
or even the slightest bit of attention for the content of the
arguments they read, are agressively tense and trigger happy...
Hmm, what is that smell... fear ? xenophoby ? Anyway, it explains to
me to some extent the at times very uptight discussions typical for
this subject.

Bruce in Alaska March 25th 05 11:21 PM

In article ,
Larry W4CSC wrote:

What ****es me off is my politicians allow Alaskan oil to go to JAPAN!!


there is NO alaskan OIL that is going to Japan, Larry, and anyone who
says that any of the North slope OIl is going to anywhere except the
West coast refineries, is just plain WRONG. or uninformed.

Best to get your facts straight before spouting NONESENCE......


Bruce in alaska who works those tankers daily on 4125.0Khz
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add a 2 before @

Larry W4CSC March 26th 05 03:39 AM

DSK wrote in
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punish us for supporting Israel... an attitude that has not changed...



Oh oh...watch out! When I tell 'em I'd send all the Israeli spies home
that run our gummit, I'm branded an antisemite....or is that
extraterrestrial? I fergit.

You're not supposed to think about the trouble caused by this apartheid
country that threatens our very core.....


Larry W4CSC March 26th 05 03:40 AM

WaIIy wrote in
:

They did up to 2001, then apparently stopped, although a bunch of LNG
goes to Japan.



Hmm...Japan pays $7/gallon for gas....Californicate only pays $3. Amazing
they stopped selling to some place they can get double, isn't it?

It might get REFINED in Californicate, on its way to Japan....


Larry W4CSC March 26th 05 03:46 AM

Rich Hampel wrote in
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For those of you who would pass out cookies and pictures of Hilary
Clinton.....


Hermann says they **** their pants while frantically trying to get to the
Russian hand grenade rolling around under the seats....(c;

They don't expect the yachtie Clinton Lovers to put up any
fight....especially yachties unarmed by international laws and stupid
customs inspections.


Larry W4CSC March 26th 05 03:47 AM

Len wrote in
news:1111782081.4515138e0f4014f7db098cab704cd6d7@t eranews:

Hmm, what is that smell... fear ?


Those will be the alive ones, after the firefight is over.....


Skipper March 26th 05 05:06 AM

On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:34:19 +0100, Len
wrote:


Len,
Never show a weapon. Never brandish or wave a weapon. It sounds
like you really need some defensive training.


So when say two robbers, with a grown knife between their teeth, row
to your boat, you'd just shoot them by surprise instead of giving them
other thoughts by letting them take a look at your 12 ga.?
The term "warning shot" isn't in your vocabulary?
Being less of a wise guy I won't go in in what kind of training you
might need, but it's all in what you call "defensive" or "offensive".


Len,
Leave all firearms behind or get some education about their uses.

Len March 26th 05 06:09 AM

Skipper wrote:

Len,
Leave all firearms behind or get some education about their uses.


I've seen a lot of ways a discussion can be slammed down with
patronizing remarks but you get the prize...

Please, please enlighten me, Capt'n, sir. What in your opinion should
I do when I see an attacker or two coming towards my dear wife and me,
definitely planning to rob us from all our money and electronics on
board. Just muggers, with a knife.
Does your "education about the use of weapons" content that I shoot
and kill them by surprise at say 30 yards ???

I expect (but also doubt) that your courage and no doubt vigorous
mentality permits you to give me some sensible answer...

Some americans really are funny.... LOL

Keith March 26th 05 12:47 PM

http://www.mossberg.com/pcatalog/Specpurp.htm Pistol grips available, the
mariner model can be had with a 9 shot capacity. Add some nasty ammo from
http://www.firequest.com/
and you're all set.

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Keith
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You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive.
"Joe Bleau" wrote in message
...
Mossburg used to make a 12 ga. with a switchab le barrel and stock. I
think the short barrel was just legal (18.25 in.??). The standard
stock could be replaced with a pistol stock by simply unscrewing one
and screwing the other on. It was a an exccellent defensive weapon
and moderately priced. I think it was a pump action.




Keith March 26th 05 12:50 PM

Speaking of, someone posted an idea that may have some merit. He loaded up a
dry chemical fire extinguisher with cayenne pepper instead of dry chemical.
Charged up and claimed that it was a very potent weapon at close range.
Impossible for the authorities to tell it was anything but a fire
extinguisher unless they actually discharged it. I don't know how practical
this is, but sounded interesting anyway.

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Keith
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Why do croutons come in airtight packages? Aren't they just stale bread to
begin with?
"Terry Spragg" wrote in message
...
Larry W4CSC wrote:

Terry Spragg wrote in
:


Right on! Maintain surprise options. I still prefer the beer can full of
gas and zippo flame thrower for overall effect. Oh, and a kevlar life
jacket.

Terry K




I met a German in a beautiful yawl on the docks. His favorite is Russian
hand grenades available cheap. Nice looking bombs. He tossed one into a
speedboat just popping out of the dark cabin as they came alongside off
Indonesia.....Boom! Problem solved.....


A grenade is a bomb. A bomb is a weapon of mass destruction. Possessing
bombs is a crime in most parts.

Possessing beer cans and gasoline and a yard sprayer and zippo lighter is
not.

Defense is 99% brains and ingenuity, and 1% mechanical assistance, except
with ballistic missiles. There is no reliable defense against ballistic
missiles, the only chance for "victory" is a deeper capacity to absorb
attrition, at least until the air is poisonous, unless you consider
prevention of the attack in the first place.

The best defense is to give no offense. What difference could I possibly
have with a Chinese peasant? Why must our sons fight to the death? Let our
leaders enter the ring first, naked and unarmed, if they feel enough need
to fight.

Get your head straight, man.

Terry K





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