On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:55:05 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


I am familiar with all of this. See the archives. It was Satori in
this thread, not Mr. Brown.

I have enough trouble keeping up with what's current in the NGs I follow. I
certainly can't take the time to check the archives.

Point taken.

As for this thread, my impression was it was about (or had become about)
Perfect Storm and not just about the beached yacht.

Perfect Storm is a fine, but humanly imperfect, piece of book
journalism. Everything in it is attributed.

As a journalist, I would be proud to have written it.


Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC


We have achieved faith-based science,
faith-based economics, faith-based law
enforcement, and faith-based missile
defense.
What's next? Faith-based air traffic control?

Rosalie B. wrote:

Our boat was made for the Caribbean and we sail on the East coast of
the US, so it is frequently hot, humid and airless

Don't have any wind scoops though.

No? Most of the boats I've sailed on in hot places have had one for the
fore-hatch, and they make a big difference down below if there's any
breeze at all. It's a small triangle of sailcloth, about three feet tall
and with the bottom edge long enough to go round three sides of the
hatch. There's a cord from the point which you tie to something above
the deck (often one of the jib sheets[1]) and a drawstring arrangement
at the bottom which fixes it around the hatch. You set it up facing into
the breeze, and it deflects air downwards through the hatch.

I remember seeing an X-shaped one recently which looked quite good as it
wouldn't need to be pointed into the wind.

Pete

[1] Assuming roller furling

Pete Verdon d wrote in
:

My hat does.

Pete



Oh, Pete, you ARE a bad boy.....right under their noses....hee hee.

Thanks! I have to try that....

renewontime dot com wrote in
:

There are many lessons to be learned by this story, but I'm afraid this
sailor probably didn't learn any of them. I wish I could say that this
was an isolated incident, but unfortunately I've seen similar situations
happen time and again.

--


Thanks for clarifying the story. Most interesting.....

One wonders of the boats would be sometimes better off if the sailors just
went below and left them to themselves, sailless of course.

wrote in
:

you know, asking stupid questions is a first step towards learning
enough to ask intelligent ones. And he is asking rather than just
plopping down his money on a book and setting sail. Hopefully he will
take some of the constructive advice to heart and adjust his plans to
something much safer.




Very well said, indeed. I wonder if some of those so upset at him for
asking his questions about his dream would go to his aid if he were 8 miles
off the port quarter and in trouble. I find some attitudes much more
disturbing than his questions.....which I hope he will continue to ask.

New Conservative wrote in
:

Yes, thanks, I've certainly taken on board (get the pun?) the advice
so far and am grateful for it.
So far as the troll/suicide accusation is concerned, I think that's
just sour grapes over the politics of the New Conservative website
rather than the nature of the (admittedly dumb) questions I've posed.
If Mr. Temple Fry and his admirers don't want to assist me, then
they're not obliged to! Unlike them, we in the New Conservatives (no
connect with the US 'Neocons') believe in completely free speech among
many other important democratic freedoms that I'll be only to happy to
tell him all about at great length if I have to put up with any more
of his silly nonsense about trolling/suicide (which is a bloody
ignorant, stupid and offensive remark to make anyway in a public forum
where any participant could have suffered such a loss to which Mr. T-F
and his pals seem haughtily indifferent.)
To everyone else, however, thanks again.


Please keep all politics, no matter what, out of the boating newsgroups.
I'd even suggest taking away the flag-waving-at-the-bull tagline at the
bottom of your messages. rec.boats has been just decimated by the
political bull**** arguments by the children in the sandbox.

It has no place here, in either r.b.c or u.r.s on your side of the pond.

Rosalie B. wrote in
:

I think having the hatch open over your face is an advantage, and not
a disadvantage. I sleep better if I know I don't have to keep waking
up to see if it is raining. It's bad enough that I have to keep
waking up to check on the anchor and anchor light. .


Hee hee.....I put a screen into the hatch over the V-berth in that marina
that's in Mosquito Bay near Ponce Inlet, FL. God they were just eating us
ALIVE! I clicked on the cabin light and the mosquitoes that had already
gotten their fill of my blood were being held IN the cabin in droves by my
screen.....

I never want to sleep near Mosquito Bay again...no thanks! I spent the
night in the marina office the rentacop let me into laying on the table by
the TV in the captain's lounge....

Larry W4CSC wrote:
Pete Verdon d wrote

Clothing smelling of diesel
My hat does.

Oh, Pete, you ARE a bad boy.....right under their noses....hee hee.

Thanks! I have to try that....

It's not deliberate, I assure you. A small matter of the transducer
popping out in a chartered boat, that wasn't noticed until water was
sloshing over the bunks. There must have been half of Kuwait under the
engine, and most of it went in people's clothes. Mine were stowed in
plastic bags in lockers right up under the deck, so no damage at all,
but my hat wasn't quite so lucky.

Gives it character.

Pete

"Ian Petrie" wrote in message
newspsnex9cloy2hkvz@aloysius...
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 07:37:27 -0000, Duncan Heenan
wrote:


You really must watch "The Perfect Storm", the movie. It is a true
story


The film is crap - the "demands" of the hollywood lowest dumb denominator
factor meant that everything was hung round some big waves and a bit of "
will she get her tits out"

The book on the other hand is well worth reading. The tension is all set
with the meteorologists and the development of the storm - recommended.

Ian

--
Remove nospam from address to reply
Just for the sake of my self esteem, let it be known that I didn't ever say
" You really must watch "The Perfect Storm", the movie. It is a true
story"

Someone snipped the previous post to make it look like me, but I actually
posted a response to that statement saying it was a display of Hollywood
special effects.

Larry W4CSC wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote in
:

I think having the hatch open over your face is an advantage, and not
a disadvantage. I sleep better if I know I don't have to keep waking
up to see if it is raining. It's bad enough that I have to keep
waking up to check on the anchor and anchor light. .

Hee hee.....I put a screen into the hatch over the V-berth in that marina
that's in Mosquito Bay near Ponce Inlet, FL. God they were just eating us
ALIVE! I clicked on the cabin light and the mosquitoes that had already
gotten their fill of my blood were being held IN the cabin in droves by my
screen.....

I never want to sleep near Mosquito Bay again...no thanks! I spent the
night in the marina office the rentacop let me into laying on the table by
the TV in the captain's lounge....

We have screens over all the opening ports, and can put one into the
companionway hatch and the overhead hatches. They aren't fine enough
for no-see-ums though. (particularly bad on the gas dock at
Frenchman's Marina) In that case, we just have to shut the boat up
and suffer in the heat. We have fans but not A/C.


grandma Rosalie
http://www12.virtualtourist.com/m/4a9c6/