JR Gilbreath wrote:
Fine. How does it feel being a lap dog?

That's what I love about America! Punish everyone who won't help with
their stupid imperialist ******** and accuse anyone who does help of
being a poodle!!!

Bunch of weirdos.

Larry W4CSC wrote in his simulated living aboard
piece

Boats don't have room for "beds", as such. Fold your Sealy Posturepedic up
against a wall, it won't fit on a boat. Go to a hobby fabric store and buy
a foam pad 5' 10" long and 4' wide AND NO MORE THAN 3" THICK. Cut it into
a triangle so the little end is only 12" wide. This simulates the foam pad
in the V-berth up in the pointy bow of the sailboat. Bring in the kitchen
table from the kitchen you're not allowed to use. Put the pad UNDER the
table, on the floor, so you can simulate the 3' of headroom over the pad.
Block off both long sides of the pad, and the pointy end so you have to
climb aboard the V-berth from the wide end where your pillows will be. The
hull blocks off the sides of a V-berth and you have to climb up over the
end of it through a narrow opening (hatch to main cabin) on a boat. You'll
climb over your mate's head to go to the potty in the night. No fun for
either party. Test her mettle and resolve by getting up this way right
after you go to bed at night. snip.... You need to find out how
much climbing over her she will tolerate BEFORE you're stuck with a big
boat and big marina bills and she refuses to sleep aboard it any more.....

I have never quite understood sleeping with my feet at the pointy end.
The first time I ever slept aboard a boat it was a charter, and we
were in the V-berth. I looked at it and instantly decided to sleep
with my head at the pointy end, and moved the pillows to that end.
It's not THAT narrow that both Bob and I can't both fit our heads
there. I'd rather have my head near his than my feet near his feet
or my head at his feet which would be completely unsatisfactory.

This has the advantage that we can crawl in AND back out (without
turning around) and it doesn't disturb the other person. It's MUCH
better than an athwart berth in that respect. Also, I can get one
foot outside of the covers - I can't sleep if I can't get my feet out
from under the sheet. The only disadvantage I can see is that the
reading light on the bulkhead is now at my feet. If I want to read, I
just take my pillow down there and sit at the 'foot'.

On our boat, we have a hatch that is right over the V-berth and if we
leave it open at night and it rains, it rains on your face and alerts
you to get up and close the hatches. Also I can exit the V-berth
through this hatch to look at the sunrise without traipsing through
the main cabin or waking Bob up.

Why don't other people do this?


grandma Rosalie

In article ,
says...


Fine. How does it feel being a lap dog?

Hee, hee. Touche!

In article , says...


Gogarty wrote in
:

Great advice. With your implied permission, I am going to publish your
remarks in the March issue of the New York Sailing Club Newsletter.

Oh, my usenet ramblings are public domain...(c;

I don't think I've ever crossposted to uk.rec.sailing before. Nice to meet
all of you...

A few years ago, I got fooling around from a question about how it was to
live aboard a sailboat from someone who was thinking about doing it. So,
late one night I just started trying to be funny and came up with the
"Liveaboard Simulator" prospective liveaboards could try out at home
without wasting money on a boat, just to see if the wife and family would
tolerate it.o "load up" because your boat has limited


(Big snip)

I think I recall that original posting. Did you ever submit it to a paying
magazine? You should. It's great but not really suitable for our Newsletter
though I may print it out for a giveaway at our next meeting. The other piece
was perfect for the nesletter since the New York Sailing Club is all about
getting boat owners and clueless potential crew together.

Duncan Heenan wrote:

"Stephen Trapani" wrote in message
...

Duncan Heenan wrote:


"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
t...


Duncan, are you still be ****ed about losing the colonies?
JR


So you ARE American, and that DOES explain a lot!
PS How do you like owning Afghanistan and Iraq?

Fabulous! The price of gasoline is dropping like a stone thanks to, um,
all that oil in Afghanistan!

Stephen


And your point is???

I'll leave that for you to work out on your own.

Stephen

On 9 Mar 2005 10:46:05 -0600, Dave wrote:

Generally there are just two of us
aboard, but where do you folks stow the sails when guests are aboard
overnight?

=============

On deck. Don't forget to tie them down in case you have a storm
during the night.

Rosalie B. wrote:

I have never quite understood sleeping with my feet at the pointy end.
The first time I ever slept aboard a boat it was a charter, and we
were in the V-berth. I looked at it and instantly decided to sleep
with my head at the pointy end, and moved the pillows to that end.

Probably depends on the boat. Many of them are narrow enough that two
people's shoulders wouldn't physically fit, let alone be comfortable.

Pete

Pete Verdon d wrote:

Rosalie B. wrote:

I have never quite understood sleeping with my feet at the pointy end.
The first time I ever slept aboard a boat it was a charter, and we
were in the V-berth. I looked at it and instantly decided to sleep
with my head at the pointy end, and moved the pillows to that end.

Probably depends on the boat. Many of them are narrow enough that two
people's shoulders wouldn't physically fit, let alone be comfortable.

I usually sleep with my feet even with his, and since I'm shorter,
that means that my shoulders are at a different level than his.

I've been in regular beds less than (3/4) where both of us could not
have our shoulders flat at the same time, and the beds were the same
length all the way down (on a narrowboat). Was not a problem. We
also had a somewhat narrow double in London. The only real problem in
each place was that one side of the bed was against a wall.

Mostly we don't sleep on our backs or on our stomachs, but spoon
fashion. And when he turns over, I turn over too. It might be more
of a problem if we were taller, but neither of us is over 6 feet.

Personally I think this is what comes of giving kids double or queen
beds to sleep in by themselves - they get used to more space and then
a regular sleeping space is too small.


grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id1.html

Wayne.B wrote:

On 9 Mar 2005 10:46:05 -0600, Dave wrote:

Generally there are just two of us
aboard, but where do you folks stow the sails when guests are aboard
overnight?

=============

On deck. Don't forget to tie them down in case you have a storm
during the night.

We only have one set of sails and they are on the boat. When we take
the sails off to haul the boat, they do go in the V-berth.

Normally of course, we sleep in the aft cabin, and use the V-berth as
a garage to store scuba gear, extra solar panels etc. We have a
separate shower, so when we have guests, all that stuff goes in the
shower (it's packed to the top), and we have to go into marinas each
night if our guests are of the type that have to shower every day and
if the weather etc is such that we can't use the deck shower.
grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id1.html

Rosalie B. wrote:

Personally I think this is what comes of giving kids double or queen
beds to sleep in by themselves - they get used to more space and then
a regular sleeping space is too small.

Ah, I'm alright then. I still turn over with a kind of mini-bounce
in-place because the ex-army beds at boarding school were really narrow.

Pete