In article ,
keouttheP says...


This guy so far has managed to get nearly 50 replies to this question,
nearly 200 replies to a previous question. He hasn't done any sailing, he
doesn't seem to have read any sailing books.

He is choosing to post in a way that publices a marginal opinion group.

I reckon that spells Troll, or to be charitable someone with a suicidal
compulsion,

Either case he/she/it shouldn't be encouraged.

Troll or not, he has caused to be generated some very interesting and even
useful responses.

No stupid questions, only stupid mistakes.

Gogarty wrote:
keouttheP says...

Either case he/she/it shouldn't be encouraged.

Troll or not, he has caused to be generated some very interesting and even
useful responses.

No stupid questions, only stupid mistakes.

I disagree - most of his questions have been remarkably stupid. But that
doesn't mean we have to ignore them. Feel free to if *you* want to, but
it doesn't hurt anyone to reply to these questions even if they are stupid.

Pete

"Pete Verdon" d wrote in
message ...
I disagree - most of his questions have been remarkably stupid. But that
doesn't mean we have to ignore them. Feel free to if *you* want to, but
it doesn't hurt anyone to reply to these questions even if they are
stupid.

C'mon guys, didn't everyone have the same questions when he or she started
thinking about sailing? The OP just had the courage to actually *ask*
them.....

Meindert

While choking on an orange the asphixiatingly tight latex collar began to
take effect as *Meindert Sprang* gapsed to *uk.rec.sailing* with a dying
breath:

"Pete Verdon" d wrote in
message ...
I disagree - most of his questions have been remarkably stupid. But that
doesn't mean we have to ignore them. Feel free to if *you* want to, but
it doesn't hurt anyone to reply to these questions even if they are
stupid.

C'mon guys, didn't everyone have the same questions when he or she started
thinking about sailing? The OP just had the courage to actually *ask*
them.....

Meindert

Ermm.. no... The questions I had when I first started sailing, were more
focused on the process of learning to sail, not some pie in the sky fantasy
of sailing single handed accross the globe over the forthcoming summer
hols...[1]

PG

[1] Although that does appeal some what [2]
[2] But I'm certain I'd either not survive[3], or wind up going the 'Long
Way Round'
[3] So I'll stick to the coastal stuff for a couple more years.


--
Keelworm:
*www.love2sail.co.uk - UK Sailing Forums*

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:44:11 +0000, Pete Verdon
d wrote:

Gogarty wrote:
keouttheP says...

Either case he/she/it shouldn't be encouraged.

Troll or not, he has caused to be generated some very interesting and even
useful responses.

No stupid questions, only stupid mistakes.

I disagree - most of his questions have been remarkably stupid. But that
doesn't mean we have to ignore them. Feel free to if *you* want to, but
it doesn't hurt anyone to reply to these questions even if they are stupid.

Pete

you know, asking stupid questions is a first step towards learning
enough to ask intelligent ones. And he is asking rather than just
plopping down his money on a book and setting sail. Hopefully he will
take some of the constructive advice to heart and adjust his plans to
something much safer.


Weebles Wobble
(but they don't fall down)

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:43:36 -0500,
wrote:

you know, asking stupid questions is a first step towards learning
enough to ask intelligent ones. And he is asking rather than just
plopping down his money on a book and setting sail. Hopefully he will
take some of the constructive advice to heart and adjust his plans to
something much safer.

Yes, thanks, I've certainly taken on board (get the pun?) the advice
so far and am grateful for it.
So far as the troll/suicide accusation is concerned, I think that's
just sour grapes over the politics of the New Conservative website
rather than the nature of the (admittedly dumb) questions I've posed.
If Mr. Temple Fry and his admirers don't want to assist me, then
they're not obliged to! Unlike them, we in the New Conservatives (no
connect with the US 'Neocons') believe in completely free speech among
many other important democratic freedoms that I'll be only to happy to
tell him all about at great length if I have to put up with any more
of his silly nonsense about trolling/suicide (which is a bloody
ignorant, stupid and offensive remark to make anyway in a public forum
where any participant could have suffered such a loss to which Mr. T-F
and his pals seem haughtily indifferent.)
To everyone else, however, thanks again.
--

"Suffer no one to tell you what to think."
Martin Smith, the New Conservative Party.

http://www.newconservativeparty.org

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:49:04 GMT, New Conservative
wrote:


Yes, thanks, I've certainly taken on board (get the pun?) the advice
so far and am grateful for it.
So far as the troll/suicide accusation is concerned, I think that's
just sour grapes over the politics of the New Conservative website
rather than the nature of the (admittedly dumb) questions I've posed.
If Mr. Temple Fry and his admirers don't want to assist me, then
they're not obliged to! Unlike them, we in the New Conservatives (no
connect with the US 'Neocons') believe in completely free speech among
many other important democratic freedoms that I'll be only to happy to
tell him all about at great length if I have to put up with any more
of his silly nonsense about trolling/suicide (which is a bloody
ignorant, stupid and offensive remark to make anyway in a public forum
where any participant could have suffered such a loss to which Mr. T-F
and his pals seem haughtily indifferent.)
To everyone else, however, thanks again.

Seriously though, crew on a 30 footer off the English coast as one of
three people, or rent a dinghy in the Solent and flop around in light
air until you feel you've got the basics. There is no substitute for
doing, and you are asking questions that can be answered by any of
several hundred web sites.

No offence meant, but you will have better questions having tipped a
boat over several times without serious incident.
R.

In other words, we can't take you seriously as a sailor or even a wanna-be.

--
Dennis Gibbons
dkgibbons at optonline dot net
"rhys" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 01:49:04 GMT, New Conservative
wrote:


Yes, thanks, I've certainly taken on board (get the pun?) the advice
so far and am grateful for it.
So far as the troll/suicide accusation is concerned, I think that's
just sour grapes over the politics of the New Conservative website
rather than the nature of the (admittedly dumb) questions I've posed.
If Mr. Temple Fry and his admirers don't want to assist me, then
they're not obliged to! Unlike them, we in the New Conservatives (no
connect with the US 'Neocons') believe in completely free speech among
many other important democratic freedoms that I'll be only to happy to
tell him all about at great length if I have to put up with any more
of his silly nonsense about trolling/suicide (which is a bloody
ignorant, stupid and offensive remark to make anyway in a public forum
where any participant could have suffered such a loss to which Mr. T-F
and his pals seem haughtily indifferent.)
To everyone else, however, thanks again.

Seriously though, crew on a 30 footer off the English coast as one of
three people, or rent a dinghy in the Solent and flop around in light
air until you feel you've got the basics. There is no substitute for
doing, and you are asking questions that can be answered by any of
several hundred web sites.

No offence meant, but you will have better questions having tipped a
boat over several times without serious incident.
R.

On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:20:57 -0500, "Dennis Gibbons"
wrote:

In other words, we can't take you seriously as a sailor or even a wanna-be.

Well, I was trying to be gentle G

R.

New Conservative wrote in
:

Yes, thanks, I've certainly taken on board (get the pun?) the advice
so far and am grateful for it.
So far as the troll/suicide accusation is concerned, I think that's
just sour grapes over the politics of the New Conservative website
rather than the nature of the (admittedly dumb) questions I've posed.
If Mr. Temple Fry and his admirers don't want to assist me, then
they're not obliged to! Unlike them, we in the New Conservatives (no
connect with the US 'Neocons') believe in completely free speech among
many other important democratic freedoms that I'll be only to happy to
tell him all about at great length if I have to put up with any more
of his silly nonsense about trolling/suicide (which is a bloody
ignorant, stupid and offensive remark to make anyway in a public forum
where any participant could have suffered such a loss to which Mr. T-F
and his pals seem haughtily indifferent.)
To everyone else, however, thanks again.


Please keep all politics, no matter what, out of the boating newsgroups.
I'd even suggest taking away the flag-waving-at-the-bull tagline at the
bottom of your messages. rec.boats has been just decimated by the
political bull**** arguments by the children in the sandbox.

It has no place here, in either r.b.c or u.r.s on your side of the pond.