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New kid in town?
The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes
out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183? I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait? Gordon |
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:
The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183? I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait? Gordon NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too). There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses, rather than using NMEA-2000. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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I built a prototype hub that would allow 0183 and 2000 to
interoperate. The outrageous fee to NMEA for the 2000 docs and license to implement it made it not viable. If NMEA wants 2000 to succeed then they have to encourage the small operator rather than pricing them out of the market. Doug s/v CAllista "Peter Bennett" wrote in message news.com... On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote: The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183? I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait? Gordon NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too). There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses, rather than using NMEA-2000. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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I don't understand. Who charges the fee? It's basically plug and play.
Gordon "Peter Bennett" wrote in message news.com... On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote: The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183? I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait? Gordon NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too). There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses, rather than using NMEA-2000. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:43:06 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:
I don't understand. Who charges the fee? It's basically plug and play. Gordon NMEA charges the equipment manufacturers a large licence fee for the privileged of making equipment to the MEA-2000 spec. As a result, many makers have chosen to develop their own proprietary buses, and to use NMEA-0183 if they have to communicate with other maker's equipment. I haven't noticed any consumer-grade equipment using NMEA-2000 - don't know if it is used in the commercial field. If I was me, I wouldn't wait for NMEA-2000 equipment to show up. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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NMEA charges the fee to the manufacturer. It will, of course, be
passed on to the consumer. It's really a Plug and Pray. Ethernet based approaches are becoming popular. Doug s/v Callista "Gordon" wrote in message . .. I don't understand. Who charges the fee? It's basically plug and play. Gordon "Peter Bennett" wrote in message news.com... On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote: The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183? I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait? Gordon NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too). There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses, rather than using NMEA-2000. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca |
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