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The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes
out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183?
I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait?
Gordon

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear comes
out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183?
I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait?
Gordon

NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It
is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a
bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to
SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too).

There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so
you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses,
rather than using NMEA-2000.



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I built a prototype hub that would allow 0183 and 2000 to
interoperate. The outrageous fee to NMEA for the 2000 docs
and license to implement it made it not viable. If NMEA wants
2000 to succeed then they have to encourage the small operator
rather than pricing them out of the market.

Doug
s/v CAllista

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear
comes
out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183?
I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait?
Gordon

NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It
is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a
bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to
SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too).

There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so
you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses,
rather than using NMEA-2000.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

I don't understand. Who charges the fee? It's basically plug and play.
Gordon

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear
comes
out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183?
I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait?
Gordon

NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It
is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a
bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to
SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too).

There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so
you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses,
rather than using NMEA-2000.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 05:43:06 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

I don't understand. Who charges the fee? It's basically plug and play.
Gordon


NMEA charges the equipment manufacturers a large licence fee for the
privileged of making equipment to the MEA-2000 spec. As a result,
many makers have chosen to develop their own proprietary buses, and to
use NMEA-0183 if they have to communicate with other maker's
equipment.

I haven't noticed any consumer-grade equipment using NMEA-2000 - don't
know if it is used in the commercial field.

If I was me, I wouldn't wait for NMEA-2000 equipment to show up.


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Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

NMEA charges the fee to the manufacturer. It will, of course, be
passed on to the consumer. It's really a Plug and Pray. Ethernet based
approaches are becoming popular.

Doug
s/v Callista

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I don't understand. Who charges the fee? It's basically plug and play.
Gordon

"Peter Bennett" wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 01:08:48 GMT, "Gordon" wrote:

The newest standard for marine interface is NMEA 2000. When new gear
comes
out, with NMEA 2000, will it communicate with NMEA 0183?
I'm looking at new electronics, do I wait?
Gordon

NMEA-2000 isn't new - it was introduced in 2000 (hence the name). It
is not compatible with NMEA-0183, as 2000 uses CAN-Bus which is a
bidirectional multi-point bus (vaguely similar in operation to
SeaTalk, but incompatible with that, too).

There is apparently a considerable licence fee to use NMEA-2000, so
you may see manufacturers going to their own proprietary busses,
rather than using NMEA-2000.



--
Peter Bennett, VE7CEI
peterbb4 (at) interchange.ubc.ca
new newsgroup users info : http://vancouver-webpages.com/nnq
GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter
Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca