Doug Dotson wrote:
I'd set it up by depositing it in the nearest dumpster. It's just too
old to trust.
Gee, that's what my wife says about me!
These stoves and heaters are not rocket science. Just alcohol poured
over some wicking material with an aperature that opens and closes to
control heat production. Pressure alcohol units are a different story
and I would agree with Doug to toss a forty year old pressure unit. With
the Origo, if it works and is not rusted out, it's likely as safe as the
day it was new.

Also,on another comment, I've let my Origo stove run out of fuel on
many, many occassions (it's how I know I have to add more fuel). The
only negative consequence I've noticed is that my food doesn't cook
until I switch to the other burner. Never seen any damage to the stove.

Bill, I think that when the alcohol runs out, the flame burns the
wicking material, or at least tries to. Eventually, the material no
longer wicks properly since it is then largely carbon on top. Never a
good idea to let *any* wicked burring device run out of fuel. Same thing
happens to a regular kerosene lamp.









Bill Adams wrote:
Doug Dotson wrote:

I'd set it up by depositing it in the nearest dumpster. It's just too
old to trust.

Gee, that's what my wife says about me!
These stoves and heaters are not rocket science. Just alcohol poured
over some wicking material with an aperature that opens and closes to
control heat production. Pressure alcohol units are a different story
and I would agree with Doug to toss a forty year old pressure unit. With
the Origo, if it works and is not rusted out, it's likely as safe as the
day it was new.

Also,on another comment, I've let my Origo stove run out of fuel on
many, many occassions (it's how I know I have to add more fuel). The
only negative consequence I've noticed is that my food doesn't cook
until I switch to the other burner. Never seen any damage to the stove.

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 23:04:21 -0500, Courtney Thomas
wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

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I am very wary of any combustion heater that does not vent to the
outside. At the least you need a CO monitor and alarm but there are
other risks such as oxygen deprivation and poisoning from combustion
byproducts.

The brick, or an upside down flowerpot, is used to radiate the heat.

JAXAshby wrote:

the brick is used to retain heat after the burner is turned off, say when you
want to go to sleep with some hope of waking up the next morning.


I'd think that a old fire brick would help a Heat-Pal make thing's
cozy. I'm going to try it on mine. Good idea's.

Cindy Ballreich wrote in message
...

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe,
produces quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if
you run out of propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible
lacquer smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is
nasty!) Spillage is inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge
on deck. It will produce quite a bit of water vapor so be
prepared for condensation. Make sure that your boat is well
ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate
above the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried
that. Of course the most effective places to put it are the same
places where it's most likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!

not in the real world. no brick makes heat. the burner makes heat. the brick
heats up and then radiates retained heat ******after****** the burner is turned
off.

no brick makes heat. period.

The brick, or an upside down flowerpot, is used to radiate the heat.

JAXAshby wrote:

the brick is used to retain heat after the burner is turned off, say when
you
want to go to sleep with some hope of waking up the next morning.


I'd think that a old fire brick would help a Heat-Pal make thing's
cozy. I'm going to try it on mine. Good idea's.

Cindy Ballreich wrote in message
...

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe,
produces quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if
you run out of propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible
lacquer smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is
nasty!) Spillage is inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge
on deck. It will produce quite a bit of water vapor so be
prepared for condensation. Make sure that your boat is well
ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate
above the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried
that. Of course the most effective places to put it are the same
places where it's most likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!

Golly, BinaryBill!

Which type of alcohol stove do you think is extremely dangerous:
pressurized alcohol stoves or the Origo type or both? And why?

I would think pressurized alcohol stoves could be troublesome, as could
pressurized propane, gasoline, and kerosene. But the Origo stoves won't
even spill fuel if you turn them upside down!

Just curious. What type stove do you think is not extremely dangerous?
Surely not coal or diesel fuel?

Chuck

wrote:
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:45:34 GMT, Jim wrote:


The brick, or an upside down flowerpot, is used to radiate the heat.



The upside down flowerpot is also a dandy CO generator.

Personally, I think alcohol stoves on a boat are extremely dangerous. You'll
find that virtually all Marine insurance companies share this view. Don't
believe me? Ask them.

BB

Chuck, billie jes gots hisself confuzed das all. hiss tryen ta finds hiss
village and hiss lost.

Golly, BinaryBill!

Which type of alcohol stove do you think is extremely dangerous:
pressurized alcohol stoves or the Origo type or both? And why?

I would think pressurized alcohol stoves could be troublesome, as could
pressurized propane, gasoline, and kerosene. But the Origo stoves won't
even spill fuel if you turn them upside down!

Just curious. What type stove do you think is not extremely dangerous?
Surely not coal or diesel fuel?

Chuck

wrote:
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 17:45:34 GMT, Jim wrote:


The brick, or an upside down flowerpot, is used to radiate the heat.



The upside down flowerpot is also a dandy CO generator.

Personally, I think alcohol stoves on a boat are extremely dangerous.
You'll
find that virtually all Marine insurance companies share this view. Don't
believe me? Ask them.

BB

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 14:57:01 GMT, Bill Adams
wrote:

Doug Dotson wrote:
I'd set it up by depositing it in the nearest dumpster. It's just too
old to trust.
Gee, that's what my wife says about me!
These stoves and heaters are not rocket science. Just alcohol poured
over some wicking material with an aperature that opens and closes to
control heat production. Pressure alcohol units are a different story
and I would agree with Doug to toss a forty year old pressure unit. With
the Origo, if it works and is not rusted out, it's likely as safe as the
day it was new.

Also,on another comment, I've let my Origo stove run out of fuel on
many, many occassions (it's how I know I have to add more fuel). The
only negative consequence I've noticed is that my food doesn't cook
until I switch to the other burner. Never seen any damage to the stove.


I agree with Doug on both points. We chartered a boat in the 1980s
that had a two-burner Origo. A total of 8 weeks or so over a period of
years. Ran dry, no problem.

One problem that hasn't been mentioned in this thread, and probably
ra The cover that regulates one of the burners had its rivet crack.
This let a little air in when we shut it down for the night once.

It never stopped burning inside and was still smoldering the next
morning.

Be conscious of that possibility and you will feel it if it happens.
THere was no safety problem in this case, but it did use up some fuel.

That said, I would keep a 40-year old Origo. It generated enough heat
to steam lobsters.



Rodney Myrvaagnes NYC

Let's Put the XXX back in Xmas

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 22:58:16 GMT, chuck wrote:

Just curious. What type stove do you think is not extremely dangerous?
Surely not coal or diesel fuel?

===========================

I've had no issues with electric. Seriously.

As long as you have a working generator or inverter/big alternator,
it is nearly ideal in my opinion. The best part is no special stove
fuel to buy and store. We carry a 1 burner propane unit for backup
and store the cylinders outside.

On 05 Dec 2004 23:49:17 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

Chuck, billie jes gots hisself confuzed das all. hiss tryen ta finds hiss
village and hiss lost.
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Careful, you guys might run into each other.