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Doug Dotson December 4th 04 03:16 AM

I have a friend that has an Origo alcohol heater and likes it. Not
sure about your reference to a single burner though. Is this a
stove?

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619




Courtney Thomas December 4th 04 04:04 AM

anybody using an Origo alcohol for heat ?
 
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619


Cindy Ballreich December 4th 04 05:37 AM

Courtney Thomas wrote:
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe,
produces quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if
you run out of propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible
lacquer smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is
nasty!) Spillage is inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge
on deck. It will produce quite a bit of water vapor so be
prepared for condensation. Make sure that your boat is well
ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate
above the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried
that. Of course the most effective places to put it are the same
places where it's most likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!

chuck December 4th 04 01:34 PM

Oboy! Glad you asked.

We had an old kerosene cookstove and a kerosene space heater. And while
I've had some success with using kerosene, these two things were
completely unacceptable, even after rebuilding.

Replaced the cookstove with a two-burner Origo and could not believe the
amount of heat produced. My wife loves it (well, relative to the
kerosene stove).

We both agreed that if we ever went down the ICW in cold weather again,
we would unhesitatingly purchase the Origo space heater (which is
basically the same thing as the stove).

A minor caution: there is a smell that bothers some, not that everyone
warms up to the smell that's put into the propane or the kerosene smell.
One advantage of kerosene, of course, is that the soot doesn't smell much!

The alcohol system is really cost-effective compared to propane.
Kerosene may be cheaper still, but I'd rather freeze (and did).

Chuck

ps: you can easily get replacement burners from Origo. They last a long
time, but not forever. Tend to burn a bit with you let them run out of fuel.




Courtney Thomas wrote:
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney


John December 4th 04 06:17 PM

Hi Courtney,
I had a boat that was for sale and I didn't want to install a
furnace. I had a single burner Origo and made up a
chimney using a large can and 3/4 " copper pipe which vented out the
main hatch or porthole. I used a small fan
to circulate the warm air. I was absolutely amazed at the amount of
heat (West Coast of Canada) that this produced.
and although I went through plenty of methyl hydrate, I did try a
heat pal (Origo) once and even that worked well but I much preferred to
vent the exhaust due to health concerns/safety. hope this helps
cheers john

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney




John December 4th 04 06:22 PM

Hi again,
I was reading some of the other threads on this and thought I would
also pass along this. It is best if you never let the Origo run out of
fuel. I used a timer to prevent this from happening too often. It
ruins the absorbtion material. Also,
be careful what you burn in it. Some meythl hydrate burns with a
distict odor which irritates the eyes. Less of a problem when system is
vented to the outside. In Canada, we have two main suppliers of the
fuel. One works and the other has a distinct odor. Never use
pressurized stove alcohol. It works but the smell is unbearable. Also,
it is much more expensive. In Canada, the two suppliers have different
jugs. One is clear plastic (lousy) and the other is in a white 4 litre
jug with pink labels (excellent) fyi cheers j

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney




Courtney Thomas December 4th 04 08:53 PM

Doug,

It's an old one ['63] called a HEAT-PAL. It was intended as a heater &
stove.

Cordially,
Coutney

Doug Dotson wrote:

I have a friend that has an Origo alcohol heater and likes it. Not
sure about your reference to a single burner though. Is this a
stove?

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619






--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619


Courtney Thomas December 4th 04 09:07 PM

Cindy,

Mine is an old one ['63] and I've come onto it with no instructions,
etc. I'm not even sure that I have all the parts. The Origo
manufacturer, U.S. distributor, as well as W.Marine, Defender, and Swego
vendors also have no information on my model [HEAT-PAL].

Any help on how to set it up, operate, clean, etc. ?

I assume no wick. Mine has a red outer 'bucket', then first, inside is
the fuel container with a sort of vertical spout through which the fuel
arrives supporting a flame, I suppose; then, a plate w/center hole so
the 'spout' can poke up through. There's a sort of flame cover [I guess]
that fits over the 'spout' as well as up into the plate w/center hole.
Finally there's the perforated top 'basket' on which a pot could sit.

How do you put in fuel, and light it ? I see there's a sort of
regulating knob on the side.

Where do you get your fuel ? What price ?

I'll keep a fire extinguisher handy at all times.

I assume there's no danger of noxious fumes. Right ?

Finally, why aren't these things popular ? Origo touts safety on their
site.

Appreciatively,
Courtney



Cindy Ballreich wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe, produces
quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if you run out of
propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible lacquer
smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is nasty!) Spillage is
inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge on deck. It will produce
quite a bit of water vapor so be prepared for condensation. Make sure
that your boat is well ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate above
the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried that. Of course
the most effective places to put it are the same places where it's most
likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!



--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619


Courtney Thomas December 4th 04 09:12 PM

Chuck,

How do you know it's time to replace the burner ? A hole in it or what.

What alcohol do you find the most satisfactory ? Source and cost ?

Gratefully,
Courtney



chuck wrote:

Oboy! Glad you asked.

We had an old kerosene cookstove and a kerosene space heater. And while
I've had some success with using kerosene, these two things were
completely unacceptable, even after rebuilding.

Replaced the cookstove with a two-burner Origo and could not believe the
amount of heat produced. My wife loves it (well, relative to the
kerosene stove).

We both agreed that if we ever went down the ICW in cold weather again,
we would unhesitatingly purchase the Origo space heater (which is
basically the same thing as the stove).

A minor caution: there is a smell that bothers some, not that everyone
warms up to the smell that's put into the propane or the kerosene smell.
One advantage of kerosene, of course, is that the soot doesn't smell much!

The alcohol system is really cost-effective compared to propane.
Kerosene may be cheaper still, but I'd rather freeze (and did).

Chuck

ps: you can easily get replacement burners from Origo. They last a long
time, but not forever. Tend to burn a bit with you let them run out of
fuel.




Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney




--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619


Courtney Thomas December 4th 04 09:21 PM

John,

Is methyl-hydrate... methyl-alcohol ?

Did you just have a small fan in the vicinity of the Origo or what ?

Did you erect and dismantle your chimney with each Origo usage or was it
a permanent installation ?

I have a HEAT-PAL and am ignorant of any negative combustion consequence
which is not mentioned on Origo's site.

What specifically are the combustion products, please ?

I have a propane heat system but don't want to sleep under it and was
hoping the Origo might at least not be a combustion products hazard,
though I realize any hydrocarbon heat source is a fire hazard.

I'm in Eastern Canada right now.

Cordially,
Courtney



John wrote:

Hi Courtney,
I had a boat that was for sale and I didn't want to install a
furnace. I had a single burner Origo and made up a
chimney using a large can and 3/4 " copper pipe which vented out the
main hatch or porthole. I used a small fan
to circulate the warm air. I was absolutely amazed at the amount of
heat (West Coast of Canada) that this produced.
and although I went through plenty of methyl hydrate, I did try a
heat pal (Origo) once and even that worked well but I much preferred to
vent the exhaust due to health concerns/safety. hope this helps
cheers john

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney






--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619



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