JOHN,

Who is the vendor of the white 4 liter container w/pink label ?

Thanks once more for the help.

Cordially,
Courtney



John wrote:

Hi again,
I was reading some of the other threads on this and thought I would
also pass along this. It is best if you never let the Origo run out of
fuel. I used a timer to prevent this from happening too often. It
ruins the absorbtion material. Also,
be careful what you burn in it. Some meythl hydrate burns with a
distict odor which irritates the eyes. Less of a problem when system is
vented to the outside. In Canada, we have two main suppliers of the
fuel. One works and the other has a distinct odor. Never use
pressurized stove alcohol. It works but the smell is unbearable. Also,
it is much more expensive. In Canada, the two suppliers have different
jugs. One is clear plastic (lousy) and the other is in a white 4 litre
jug with pink labels (excellent) fyi cheers j

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney





--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

I remember the Heat-Pal from Boy Scouts. Not sure I would trust a 40
year old unit though.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Doug,

It's an old one ['63] called a HEAT-PAL. It was intended as a heater &
stove.

Cordially,
Coutney

Doug Dotson wrote:

I have a friend that has an Origo alcohol heater and likes it. Not
sure about your reference to a single burner though. Is this a
stove?

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619






--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

I'd set it up by depositing it in the nearest dumpster. It's just too
old to trust.

Doug
s/v Callista

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Cindy,

Mine is an old one ['63] and I've come onto it with no instructions, etc.
I'm not even sure that I have all the parts. The Origo manufacturer, U.S.
distributor, as well as W.Marine, Defender, and Swego vendors also have no
information on my model [HEAT-PAL].

Any help on how to set it up, operate, clean, etc. ?

I assume no wick. Mine has a red outer 'bucket', then first, inside is the
fuel container with a sort of vertical spout through which the fuel
arrives supporting a flame, I suppose; then, a plate w/center hole so the
'spout' can poke up through. There's a sort of flame cover [I guess] that
fits over the 'spout' as well as up into the plate w/center hole. Finally
there's the perforated top 'basket' on which a pot could sit.

How do you put in fuel, and light it ? I see there's a sort of regulating
knob on the side.

Where do you get your fuel ? What price ?

I'll keep a fire extinguisher handy at all times.

I assume there's no danger of noxious fumes. Right ?

Finally, why aren't these things popular ? Origo touts safety on their
site.

Appreciatively,
Courtney



Cindy Ballreich wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe, produces
quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if you run out of
propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible lacquer
smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is nasty!) Spillage is
inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge on deck. It will produce
quite a bit of water vapor so be prepared for condensation. Make sure
that your boat is well ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate above
the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried that. Of course
the most effective places to put it are the same places where it's most
likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!


--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

Courtney Thomas wrote:
Cindy,

Mine is an old one ['63] and I've come onto it with no instructions,
etc. I'm not even sure that I have all the parts. The Origo
manufacturer, U.S. distributor, as well as W.Marine, Defender, and Swego
vendors also have no information on my model [HEAT-PAL].

Courtney

Wow! 40 years old! It may be different than the current ones.

Ours is the HeatPal 5000. It consists of two nesting aluminum
"buckets". One has a bracket which holds the heating part, the
other is a cover which helps collect and radiate heat. The
heating section has 2 parts: An Origo stove cartridge - a
canister about 2" hight and 12" in diameter completely filled
with a wick material with a hole in the top exposing about 3" of
the wick surface. The other is a cover for the cartridge which
has a flame diffuser, a lever that partially or completely covers
the flame to control the heat, and little grate for setting pots
and things on.

You fill the cartridge by simply pouring alcohol onto the wick
until it won't take any more. (Yes, it's messy.) The fuel is just
denatured alcohol or "stove" alcohol. This can range from the
Origo brand alcohol (expensive, but not much smell and less water
vapor) to the generic alcohol they sell in the paint section of
the hardware store.

Once the cartridge is full and you have it all reassembled, you
light it by sticking a match or a BBQ lighter tip through the
diffuser. It usually takes two tries because there's an initial
"pop" which usually blows out the flame. You control the flame by
moving the lever back and forth. The second bucket gets turned
upside-down and is placed on top of the first.

Our boat has excellent ventilation so we haven't had any problem
with gases. I don't think these produce much carbon monoxide, but
they do use oxygen. Use common sense and I think they're very safe.

Why aren't they popular? I really don't know. I think most people
only sail when it's warm and just don't want to mess with
heaters. Others want a built-in diesel or propane heater. We
bought our HeatPal when we were chartering in cold weather
(cheaper rates) and still use it on our own boat. We've also used
it at home when the gas was out.

I'd be really careful about a 40 year old unit. These things are
dirt simple, but combustion is a tricky thing. Be sure to try it
out of doors before you use it on your boat.

Cindy

Here's what ours looks like...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...roductId=12130

I'd think that a old fire brick would help a Heat-Pal make thing's
cozy. I'm going to try it on mine. Good idea's.

Cindy Ballreich wrote in message ...
Courtney Thomas wrote:
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe,
produces quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if
you run out of propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible
lacquer smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is
nasty!) Spillage is inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge
on deck. It will produce quite a bit of water vapor so be
prepared for condensation. Make sure that your boat is well
ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate
above the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried
that. Of course the most effective places to put it are the same
places where it's most likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!

the brick is used to retain heat after the burner is turned off, say when you
want to go to sleep with some hope of waking up the next morning.

I'd think that a old fire brick would help a Heat-Pal make thing's
cozy. I'm going to try it on mine. Good idea's.

Cindy Ballreich wrote in message
...
Courtney Thomas wrote:
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?


Opinions:
We have one and like it. It's easy to use, seems fairly safe,
produces quite a bit of heat, and has a pretty blue flame. And if
you run out of propane, it's a usable stove.

Caveats:
Be sure to use good quality alcohol - some types have a terrible
lacquer smell. (The really cheap stuff they have at Ace is
nasty!) Spillage is inevitable so be sure to fill the cartridge
on deck. It will produce quite a bit of water vapor so be
prepared for condensation. Make sure that your boat is well
ventilated.

Advice:
We've been told that putting a brick or large stone on the grate
above the flame will make it heat better, but we haven't tried
that. Of course the most effective places to put it are the same
places where it's most likely to get kicked over. Be careful.

Stay warm!

Courtney,

I don't know how you know when to replace the burner. I suppose when you
feel that performance is falling. As has been suggested, they'll
probably last a very long time if you don't let them run out of fuel. We
lived aboard for a year, two adults, a child, and for a couple of
months, a teenager. Cooked all meals on the two-burner stove and the
burners are still functional some years later.

As I recall, we simply used the West Marine gallons. Found the plastic
to be far less likely to rust in the bilges.

Burning anything inside a cabin without a chimney is something to be
cautious about. In warm weather, the hatches are open. In cold weather,
human presence produces an awful amount of humidity and condensation. We
never noticed any additional condensation from the alchohol stove. But
if it had been running all night, it might have been noticed. I defer to
folks who have actually used one that way for their experience.

Chuck

I'm not sure if I have seen a response yet about filling the old style w/
the red "bucket" as you describe it.
I have 2 of these, and I use a 1 liter aluminum fuel bottle I got from a
camping supplier to keep the alcohol in. You can pour the alcohol in the
"tank" w/o spilling it.
I will look around because I should have the instruction sheet somewhere.
May take me a while, but in the meantime, I can tell you that the maximum
amount of alcohol that is supposed tobe in the "tank" is such that if you
stand the tank on its edge (so the base is oriented in a vertical plane), no
alcohol will run out. You don't fill it slam up.
I've never slept with it burning.

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

Cindy,

Thank you for the clarifying remarks.

I think mine, though forty, is structurally the same as yours.

Sounds like I may need a new 'cartridge' though.

Appreciatively,
Courtney



Cindy Ballreich wrote:

Courtney Thomas wrote:

Cindy,

Mine is an old one ['63] and I've come onto it with no instructions,
etc. I'm not even sure that I have all the parts. The Origo
manufacturer, U.S. distributor, as well as W.Marine, Defender, and
Swego vendors also have no information on my model [HEAT-PAL].


Courtney

Wow! 40 years old! It may be different than the current ones.

Ours is the HeatPal 5000. It consists of two nesting aluminum "buckets".
One has a bracket which holds the heating part, the other is a cover
which helps collect and radiate heat. The heating section has 2 parts:
An Origo stove cartridge - a canister about 2" hight and 12" in diameter
completely filled with a wick material with a hole in the top exposing
about 3" of the wick surface. The other is a cover for the cartridge
which has a flame diffuser, a lever that partially or completely covers
the flame to control the heat, and little grate for setting pots and
things on.

You fill the cartridge by simply pouring alcohol onto the wick until it
won't take any more. (Yes, it's messy.) The fuel is just denatured
alcohol or "stove" alcohol. This can range from the Origo brand alcohol
(expensive, but not much smell and less water vapor) to the generic
alcohol they sell in the paint section of the hardware store.

Once the cartridge is full and you have it all reassembled, you light it
by sticking a match or a BBQ lighter tip through the diffuser. It
usually takes two tries because there's an initial "pop" which usually
blows out the flame. You control the flame by moving the lever back and
forth. The second bucket gets turned upside-down and is placed on top of
the first.

Our boat has excellent ventilation so we haven't had any problem with
gases. I don't think these produce much carbon monoxide, but they do use
oxygen. Use common sense and I think they're very safe.

Why aren't they popular? I really don't know. I think most people only
sail when it's warm and just don't want to mess with heaters. Others
want a built-in diesel or propane heater. We bought our HeatPal when we
were chartering in cold weather (cheaper rates) and still use it on our
own boat. We've also used it at home when the gas was out.

I'd be really careful about a 40 year old unit. These things are dirt
simple, but combustion is a tricky thing. Be sure to try it out of doors
before you use it on your boat.

Cindy

Here's what ours looks like...
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...roductId=12130




--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619

Thanks Garland.

I look forward to a copy of the instruction sheet.

I have a Coleman funnel w/filter that fits perfectly into the vertical
tank orifice. I also have a couple of the aluminum bottles you mentioned
too and will use them as do you.

Gratefully,
Courtney



Garland Gray II wrote:

I'm not sure if I have seen a response yet about filling the old style w/
the red "bucket" as you describe it.
I have 2 of these, and I use a 1 liter aluminum fuel bottle I got from a
camping supplier to keep the alcohol in. You can pour the alcohol in the
"tank" w/o spilling it.
I will look around because I should have the instruction sheet somewhere.
May take me a while, but in the meantime, I can tell you that the maximum
amount of alcohol that is supposed tobe in the "tank" is such that if you
stand the tank on its edge (so the base is oriented in a vertical plane), no
alcohol will run out. You don't fill it slam up.
I've never slept with it burning.

"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...

Have come into an old single burner and am considering it as a backup
source.

Opinions, caveats, advice ?

Thank you,
Courtney
--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619






--
s/v Mutiny
Rhodes Bounty II
lying Oriental, NC
WDB5619